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Postby Oddysee » Wed Aug 11, 2004 4:53 pm

http://www.samandfuzzy.com/archive.php?id=324

Made me laugh anyway... ^^





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Postby Tacz » Wed Aug 11, 2004 5:45 pm

Fuzzy has his message clear.
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Postby Darth Bootay » Wed Aug 11, 2004 10:31 pm

**RANT ON**

Okay, I'm not the strong pro-drugs person... but what is with the fashionability of bashing pot? Of all the seriously messed up brain-rots out there (ecstasy, coke, meth, heroin, yadda yadda yadda ad nauseum...) why the hell is it so trendy to bash potheads? Why not go after the drugs that kids are getting into more, that are more seriously mind-altering and more permanently harmful to the body?

I'm not completely sure of the numbers, but isn't meth/crank the number one drug problem (at least in America) right now? We're talking about a drug that permanently messes up your brain chemistry, ages your body prematurely, makes your teeth fall out faster than an all-sugar diet in a no-brushing zone and gets people kinda violent... whereas pot just makes people kinda stupid, really hungry and fairly unmotivated. Kinda like alcohol without the spousal abuse and peeing in the closet.

I really don't get it. In a lot of ways it kind of pisses me off to see it. If I ever had kids, I'd much rather see them experiment with the pot than get involved in anything else out there. I'd still beat their butts raw for doing it, but deep down, I look at pot very much the same way I look at alcohol and tobacco. I wouldn't want to see anyone under 18 doing those either, though it's a little hypocritical of me, since I was drinking by age 13 and took up smoking at 18 after I graduated highschool.

A lot of the people in the social circles I once was involved in did a lot of drugs and I got to see firsthand what most of them will do to a person. Some of it was downright frightening to me and in hindsight, I'm very glad that I stood by decision not to join them when they offered. Ecstasy turned three intelligent, laid back and talented people I know into hyper, angry and stupid strangers. They threw away their friends, their jobs and their musical pursuits because they got hooked on Ecstasy. It completely changed their personalities, eroded their ability to reason and their creativity and made them unable to properly function in society. Studies show that the chemicals in ecstasy literally eat away at the tissue of your brain. I believe it.

Meth... is just frightening. It ruined a handful of other friends, turning them into wasted addicts. All they came to care about was where they were going to get their next fix. They started out as bright, interesting and fairly honest people and ended up stupid, ugly, diseased and completely amoral. I can't say enough about how destructive meth is. But you rarely if ever hear about the perils of meth. It's almost as if people see it as one of the 'harmless' drugs. It boggles the mind how they can demonize weed and ignore meth.

I've been fortunate never to be close to a heroin abusers. But I've seen them on the local scene and I just don't know why anyone would even want to try a drug like that. I understand that opiates are powerful painkillers, but to be honest, I don't see why anyone would want to be that doped up. I was given morphine (sister-drug to heroin) once under a doctor's supervision in a hospital and all it did was knock me out. It wasn't at all pleasant. There was no high. I just spaced out, passed out, then did a lot of barfing when I woke up again.

Cocaine is another real winner. Like ecstasy, meth and heroin, it's extremely physically addictive. Like the aforementioned, it alters the brain chemistry and the personality. Like the aforementioned, it seriously impacts your health with prolonged use. This one is particularly nasty, as the more you do, the more you want (immediately) and a person can easily fall into a trap of constant use. But you don't see a lot of anti-coke public service messages. You don't see people bashing coke-heads.

All you see these days is warnings about the evils of being a stoner. "Weed is wacked". Anti-pot propaganda is right up there with anti-tobacco propaganda in the list of public enemies. I'm beginning to think that as long as you're not smoking it, it's all good in the eyes of the media and society. Maybe they'd rather see people snorting, popping and injecting their brain-rot.

**RANT OFF**
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Postby Oddysee » Wed Aug 11, 2004 10:57 pm

Hmm... I don't think this has ever happened before... But, for once Boo', what you said made the comic even funnier... I'm sorry to say, but you obviously haven't read the comic, other than the one page I showed you... It's not about bashing pot, it's about being as amoral and politically incorrect as possible... It's what that bear is all about.

Granted, as usual, I wholeheartedly agree on your views about drugs... But that this comic could cause that reaction?... I find it oddly amusing ^^

But as with any joke, interprit it as you wish. Every joke has a sense of truth about it. Sometimes people choose to focus on the joke. Other times on the truth... Always doin the latter makes a dull and very serious life... Always doing the former will get you in trouble with people too tho, as I am living proof off ^^
I guess it's a balance of both one should seek... I'm just not able not to see the joke first hehe.




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Postby Dragonfruit » Wed Aug 11, 2004 11:17 pm

CROWBARS BITCH!!!!! hehe pot ish usel3ss tho.... some medical purposes, mah view. ^^
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Postby Mummu » Thu Aug 12, 2004 12:01 am

just read a couple of the other comics.
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they are realy good.
/me makes a bookmark.
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Postby Darth Bootay » Thu Aug 12, 2004 12:11 am

I'm getting very sensitive to the whole demonization of smoking and our country's messed up system of public priorities. Drugs, especially, to me are no laughing matter. As I mentioned, I lost an entire circle of people I once considered friends to the negative effects of what I consider to be hard drugs while an entire generation watches public service announcements about the evils of reefer and turns its family members in for smoking a little pot.

I'm afraid it's gotten to the point where I can no longer laugh about stoner jokes, however funny most of you feel they are. You can laugh all you like. You can even laugh at me. That doesn't bother me that much. *shrug* Your lives, not mine.
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Postby Tacz » Thu Aug 12, 2004 12:22 am

Bootay, from your rant, it almost seems that you feel pot doesn't do anything that bad. Pot ruins lives. Lots of them. I had a ring of friends just like you, and four of them left the ring because they all got addicted to pot. It is addicting in the way that caffeine is addicting. It takes the place of a chemical the body naturally produces, and when the pot wares off, you're low on the chem and you want more so you do more pot/caffeine. Its almost a concious addiction. Pot, in the United States, is the most commonly abused illegal substance. Meth, Crack, etc. can kill you, but pot makes you just useless as a corpse. There's alot of pot bashing, because there's alot of pot.

And besides, thats just a N-PC comic :D
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Postby Darth Bootay » Thu Aug 12, 2004 12:37 am

Bet that Kool-Aide tastes pretty sweet, Tacz. Just keep on drinking it. You'll fit in ever so much better with your generation.
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Postby Tacz » Thu Aug 12, 2004 12:46 am

I have no idea what that means, but I'm guessing it was an insult, so I'm not going to dignify it... by... responding...?


And I hate f***in kool-aid...
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Postby Darth Bootay » Thu Aug 12, 2004 12:48 am

Buying in to the popular propaganda is known as drinking the societal Kool-Aide. And I think you've been to the line more than once to judge by your response on the pot issue.
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Postby Tacz » Thu Aug 12, 2004 1:04 am

Are you saying its bad for me not to want drugs, or to smoke, or to drink (in excess)? Even if its partly because of those commercials, advertisements, etc.?
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Postby Darth Bootay » Thu Aug 12, 2004 2:40 am

No, Tacz. I'm saying that like governmental bills going to congress to be voted in or rejected, your conditioning has a good chunk of BS attatched to it and that the BS is the agenda of the Kool-Aide servers, not the good, sensible parts. You get it all as a package and you barf it all up as a unit on command.
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Postby Oddysee » Thu Aug 12, 2004 9:56 am

I dunno, in my eyes, no drug is better than another. It's a chemically induced intoxication, and as such, life is too short as it is. I don't need to fill it with black holes from where I can't remember what I did... Same really when it comes to smoking and drinking... I'm rather atypical when it comes to that tho, as I never had a need to experiment... I can't help feel that people who needed to rebbel against their parents, systems and I don't know what were, (sorry, but I'm going to offend someone now) weak...

At the same time, I don't let things like that bother me. I've lost mates to it, we all have... I lost my best friend. Not just some mate I saw once a week, but my one and everything a few years ago. The kind of friend you know you will only ever have one or two off during your whole life. I still will not give in and allow that to shut of a whole aspect of my life because I have to be all serious about it.

For me, humour is the most important thing in the world. No ammount of good looks, athletic ability, sexual capability, popularity, logic or common sense will EVER substitue for a lack of humour. I always see the funny side of anything first. It makes life rather morbid, but increadibly entertaining. This works for me, but not for all, I can respect that. All I'm saying is, some people will laugh at anything, given the situation's funny. It will at times be tasteless, and sometimes people even got hurt. Yet we laugh. I'm the first to laugh when I get hurt if it looked funny. It's the situation, not the person we laugh at. Thinking about the moral and serious side of a joke sinks it faster than an iceberg did the Titanic.
For a lot of people, laughter is the easiest way to deal with problems. It's our way of crying if you will. We laugh at horrible things, because it makes them barable. It doesn't mean we don't take things seriously, it doesn't mean we don't think about it. We just stick to the lighter side of it. Life is only ever as dark as you make it.
It's just a different angle, and in my oppinion, and easier one. Why make life more difficult than it already is?





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Postby Mummu » Thu Aug 12, 2004 10:30 am

i m not entirely sure about the logic.
but to the rest i can only say:
"/voice haha"
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Postby Tacz » Thu Aug 12, 2004 4:39 pm

I'm just like you, Oddy. Do you all remember that Russian flash animation "Smoking Kills"? That movie was frowned upon and people disliked me for posting it on other forums, but there were always those of us that couldnt stop laughing. We know its mean, and we know its crude, but its worth a laugh, so we give it one.
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Postby Boinky » Thu Aug 12, 2004 4:46 pm

No drug is better than another Oddy? A drug is not technically an illegal substance or even something prescribed by your doctor. No drug better than another - Hmmm do I wanna pop an advil or shoot some heroin?!

Tacz, you are young and I think StBoo's correct in her appraisal. Almost everything you hear says one thing so you believe it sight unseen.

Bootay - It's a simple reason as far as I can see why there's all the big campaigns against pot in the US. Marijuana is a somewhat harmless drug that is illegal, not regulated by the government, and isn't making any corporation billions of dollars. Anyone wanna step to the line and try and tell me marijuana is more harmful than tobacco? Add up the numbers and I'll shoot you down! If Philip Morris sold marijuana cigarettes they'd be sold everywhere, and 16 year old kids would be able to buy them as easy as they buy tobacco cigs now. Marijuana is the big target because the Meth, Cocaine, Heroin & the like are terribly destructive drugs. Hollywood does enough campaigning against them in movies already.

But all that said marijuana can do some terrible things. I witnessed 2 friends who were high (I was not) laugh hysterically at the Crocodile Hunter movie.... ohhh the pain :wink:
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Postby Tacz » Thu Aug 12, 2004 5:03 pm

Hey, if I believed everything I heard, I'd be a democrat :wink:

See? I resort to humor.

And whats with all you guys saying pot is somewhat harmless? I've seen firsthand how its effects ruin lives, and the people turn out just as bad as this guy I knew (who is now in rehab) who got addicted to crack. Cigarettes are harmful, too, but on a much smaller (MUCH smaller) scale.
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Postby Boinky » Thu Aug 12, 2004 5:09 pm

Tacz wrote:Cigarettes are harmful, too, but on a much smaller (MUCH smaller) scale.


They are addictive and they kill people. that's pretty small eh
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Postby Tacz » Thu Aug 12, 2004 5:12 pm

In comparison to crack and meth and pot etc. the effects are fairly small. They are still bad, they still kill, and I will never touch one.
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