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Postby Fishi3 » Sun Oct 07, 2007 1:44 pm

I was in court a couple of weeks ago. Testifying against a man up on a sexual assault charge. The whole business wore me out and the end resuly was a hung jury. Unlike the US in Canada they can appeal the result and bring it back to trial so it may not be over yet.

Yesterday as I'm walking past a building a domestic dispute exploded out the door of that building. he's walking away and she's yelling after him that her heads split open... I'm not quite dumb enough to get involved in a domestic dispute but seeing as she was bleeding I did turn about and call the cops.

Damnit I don't want to spend more time in court. There has to be a way to avoid spending a week in court when all I have to say is yeah I saw him there.

And since I was half way accross town from where I live I got several. What are you doing out here type questions. I'm cat sitting for a friend officer.Admittedly I live in the rough part of town and this is the quiet, supposedly, peaceful, alledgedly suburbish part of town. But come on if I was here looking to steal stuff I'd hardly be calling the cops or waiting for them to show up while standing in the rain if I did.


Meh... More proof that people are stupid I suppose.

My Father always said "Just don't get involved.", But me I have to help people.

And of course the woman probably won't press charges anyways. Because she loves him and it'll have been an accident... Smacking you about is not love. It's a power trip. Your protecting him isn't going to make it all better in the long run. Get smart. If your getting hit you leave. Theres so much support for battered women out there that it's plain rediculous not to use it.


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Postby Jugsmalone » Tue Oct 09, 2007 3:16 pm

I agree with you totally love, too many women stay in a relationship because they think without him they can not make it on there own. He owns them and he can do as he wishes,,,, Bullshit I say no person has the right to control another mentally or Physically,,, I say the same to women that abuse the men in there lives Yes there are those too.. stop playing mind games and stop hurting the ones you proclaim to love....Love should never be painful...I applaud you for getting involved hon more people need to do this to protect the weak .... anyone that puts up with abuse is very weak and has no self esteem.
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Postby Nicodar » Tue Oct 09, 2007 7:37 pm

Jugsmalone wrote:Love should never be painful...



Love is always painful.

Fishi3 wrote:I'm not quite dumb enough to get involved in a domestic dispute but seeing as she was bleeding I did turn about and call the cops.


Sorry but the dumb thing to do would have been not to get involved somehow, i.e. like calling the police as you did.
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Postby Rehab » Tue Oct 09, 2007 11:15 pm

sorry but you have to know the full story before you say anything about leaving someone for being hit. I've had a bit of experience with it since its happened in my family and if my parents did split up it would've caused a huge amount of trauma but my mum still loves my dad no matter wat and she doesnt resent him or anything they are fine now and that is what happens in most cases. And most of the time it ISNT a power trip since people have morales. but hell i aint gettin involved u have ur opinions and i have mine and we'll leave it at that just you have to see what is really happening before you say stuff about certain things
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Postby Jugsmalone » Wed Oct 10, 2007 12:15 am

Well perhaps you feel this way love , and it is your right but trust me I too came from a family with many kinds of abuse I watched my mom move from one abusive man to another, I watched her turn to alcohol and I put up with abuse from her I had no choice she was mom, I also was molested by her brother my uncle at a very very early age, her response was your Uncle is a very sick man and needs medical help but she did nothing and he continued to enter my bedroom, I despised and hated him till the day he died. I refused to put any children I would have threw such trauma , I chose a husband wisely and was very very happy.. He would never ever raise a hand to a women no matter what tho he did one time take the door off the hinges and put his fist threw a wall... Yes all marriages have problems but to hit or abuse anyone you proclaim to love is never right.. and of course that is just my opinion..but you could just call me an old fuddy duddy.
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Postby Firia » Wed Oct 10, 2007 2:08 am

"Getting involved" may not always be the brightest move, but the heart isn't measured in IQ. :) I think helping someone in need is one of those "good deeds" modern society is in short supply of.
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Postby Neoagent » Wed Oct 10, 2007 2:50 am

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Postby Fishi3 » Wed Oct 10, 2007 8:19 am

If nothing else comes of it at least the woman got proper medical care. Far to often in cases of domestic disputes the women doesn't get medical care because she's afraid the doctor will ask what happened. Most of my friends can cite a case for having been abused at some point in their lives so I suppose my attitude is shaped by their experiance. I take the view that I'm going to do what I can to help if I can help. I'm just not going to risk my own neck for strangers doing it.

Nicodar there are a whole lot of levels of involvement. I believe I did the right thing for everyone involved. If it actually went to court I'll testify to what I saw. A hurt woman and a indifferent uncaring man. I'm not sure theres any excuse for someone being so uncaring that they can cause a potentially greivious injury and just walk away. You can believe that doing anything was wrong if you like. But If I'd been so uncaring as to just keep walking when I see a hurt human being I'd be no better than the person who inflicted the wound and I like to think I'm better than that.

But then I also tend to wounded animals
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Postby Nicodar » Wed Oct 10, 2007 8:37 am

Fishi3 wrote:Nicodar there are a whole lot of levels of involvement. I believe I did the right thing for everyone involved. If it actually went to court I'll testify to what I saw. A hurt woman and a indifferent uncaring man. I'm not sure theres any excuse for someone being so uncaring that they can cause a potentially greivious injury and just walk away. You can believe that doing anything was wrong if you like. But If I'd been so uncaring as to just keep walking when I see a hurt human being I'd be no better than the person who inflicted the wound and I like to think I'm better than that.



Seeing as I said it would have been stupid not to have gotten involved, I am not sure what your point is...
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Postby Fishi3 » Wed Oct 10, 2007 8:51 am

Nico your turn of phraise was akward and I misunderstood your point I guess.
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Postby Rehab » Wed Oct 10, 2007 9:31 am

Jugsmalone wrote:Well perhaps you feel this way love , and it is your right but trust me I too came from a family with many kinds of abuse I watched my mom move from one abusive man to another, I watched her turn to alcohol and I put up with abuse from her I had no choice she was mom, I also was molested by her brother my uncle at a very very early age, her response was your Uncle is a very sick man and needs medical help but she did nothing and he continued to enter my bedroom, I despised and hated him till the day he died. I refused to put any children I would have threw such trauma , I chose a husband wisely and was very very happy.. He would never ever raise a hand to a women no matter what tho he did one time take the door off the hinges and put his fist threw a wall... Yes all marriages have problems but to hit or abuse anyone you proclaim to love is never right.. and of course that is just my opinion..but you could just call me an old fuddy duddy.


i totally agree with you but as you said its the situation that you have to totally understand. and sure guys who are like those should be put away forever since i despise those sort of actions its just sickening. and in my case my mum got hit because she was hiding CCJ's from my dad so they had to move house about 3 times and he was sick of moving but my dads a good guy and I love him and my mum but you know as usual as a teenager you have to annoy them :P
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