Contests

[Maar]

there is still a problem with trivia contests.

for gridbot to find a winner of all submissions, the submission must be in the exact format that the DJ had gridbot look for. the chances of people submissting the "exact" text that gridbot was looking for, on an open contest are not good. hell, there are many times when contestants are told "exactly" what to tell gridbot, and they STILL mess it up.

as for "first person to reply" contests, the audio stream has an average of 3-7 seconds delay for most listeners. this will change depending on connection, time listening, listeners on the stream, and countless other unknowns. back before gridbot was able to pick random winners, one or two people would consistantly win every night, simply because they had the solid connection at the time. generally they were nice enough to pass on the prize and let others have a shot, but the possibility for abuse still existed.

as for handing out items. check out the media section on the website sometime, look through the Talk Deviant episodes for Tarryks rants on the economy. handing out anything that people would turn around and sell to other players lends to the problems discussed (in great, graphic, and entertaining detail) raw cash is easy to hand off to terminals, and amounts that would lend themselves to price inflation are rarely given out as prizes.



finally, IF you are going to insist on carrying this debate (I'm not saying you should drop it, an open discussion is always a good thing) please try not to type like you're in an AOL chatroom. if you're too lazy to completely type out the word "you", then I'm probably viewing the rest of your argument as lazy and unfounded as well.

[Lauri]

I'm baffled as to why you continue to egg this debate on, as well. I'm not sure how much clearer than "THANKS, BUT WE HAVE TRIED ALL OF YOUR SUGGESTIONS ALREADY AND WE ARE COMFORTABLE WITH OUR CURRENT METHOD(S) OF CONTEST-MANAGEMENT", we can get.

I mean, really, you say you want to improve GSP, but being deaf to the fact that we have tried just about everything, is what kills the "constructive" in "constructive criticism".

I'm not sure what more can even be said on the matter.

[Crushproof]

Earthnut, sounds like you've got some fairly specific ideas as to how things should be run with an online radio station.

Might I suggest that you start your own?

[Maar]

heh, I'm not associated with GSP, can I still argue with him?

[earthnut]

there is still a problem with trivia contests.

for gridbot to find a winner of all submissions, the submission must be in the exact format that the DJ had gridbot look for. the chances of people submissting the "exact" text that gridbot was looking for, on an open contest are not good. hell, there are many times when contestants are told "exactly" what to tell gridbot, and they STILL mess it up.

as for "first person to reply" contests, the audio stream has an average of 3-7 seconds delay for most listeners. this will change depending on connection, time listening, listeners on the stream, and countless other unknowns. back before gridbot was able to pick random winners, one or two people would consistantly win every night, simply because they had the solid connection at the time. generally they were nice enough to pass on the prize and let others have a shot, but the possibility for abuse still existed.

as for handing out items. check out the media section on the website sometime, look through the Talk Deviant episodes for Tarryks rants on the economy. handing out anything that people would turn around and sell to other players lends to the problems discussed (in great, graphic, and entertaining detail) raw cash is easy to hand off to terminals, and amounts that would lend themselves to price inflation are rarely given out as prizes.



finally, IF you are going to insist on carrying this debate (I'm not saying you should drop it, an open discussion is always a good thing) please try not to type like you're in an AOL chatroom. if you're too lazy to completely type out the word "you", then I'm probably viewing the rest of your argument as lazy and unfounded as well.

1)Well, thats not so much of a problem if the DJ specifically says something like "no caps no spaces the name of the rarest drop from doggie guardian in temple", who could possible get that wrong?

2)Never suggested first person to reply contests.

3) Yes. that was then.

4) I dont see any reason for that. You dont even write correctly

[earthnut]

I'm baffled as to why you continue to egg this debate on, as well. I'm not sure how much clearer than "THANKS, BUT WE HAVE TRIED ALL OF YOUR SUGGESTIONS ALREADY AND WE ARE COMFORTABLE WITH OUR CURRENT METHOD(S) OF CONTEST-MANAGEMENT", we can get.

I mean, really, you say you want to improve GSP, but being deaf to the fact that we have tried just about everything, is what kills the "constructive" in "constructive criticism".

I'm not sure what more can even be said on the matter.

I continue this debate because I am right. I must take battle and not accept disregarding from the evil supremenists, who fail to see that their system is inferior.

[earthnut]

Earthnut, sounds like you've got some fairly specific ideas as to how things should be run with an online radio station.

Might I suggest that you start your own?

No, you might not suggest that.

[FoxyJama]

Ah, the perils of quoting the dictionary to someone who reads it for fun...

Main Entry: constructive criticism
Part of Speech: noun
Definition: criticism or advice that is useful and intended to help or improve something, often with an offer of possible solutions

Here's one for you:

malapropos - mal·a·pro·pos adj : of an inappropriate or incorrectly applied nature [ant: apropos]

[earthnut]

Ah, the perils of quoting the dictionary to someone who reads it for fun...

Main Entry: constructive criticism
Part of Speech: noun
Definition: criticism or advice that is useful and intended to help or improve something, often with an offer of possible solutions

Here's one for you:

malapropos - mal·a·pro·pos adj : of an inappropriate or incorrectly applied nature [ant: apropos]

When you have to defend yourself with witty comments you should now that you have lost the debate. GG gud sirs.

[earthnut]

I'm baffled as to why you continue to egg this debate on, as well. I'm not sure how much clearer than "THANKS, BUT WE HAVE TRIED ALL OF YOUR SUGGESTIONS ALREADY AND WE ARE COMFORTABLE WITH OUR CURRENT METHOD(S) OF CONTEST-MANAGEMENT", we can get.

I mean, really, you say you want to improve GSP, but being deaf to the fact that we have tried just about everything, is what kills the "constructive" in "constructive criticism".

I'm not sure what more can even be said on the matter.

I feel I was short on this one. You haven't said why this wouldn't work, please enlighten me. I seriously doubt you have tried it in the way I want it, because I see no back sides.

[Tarryk]

Okay, I'll lay it on on the line for you, earthnut.

ONE

We don't offer many items because they are not fair to all players. There are very few items in the game that do not cater to a specific crowd. Like armor and weapons, catering only to people who A) are the profession trained to use that armor/weapon, and B) are within level range of that armor/weapon.

Credits are the universal fair prize. Therefore we stick to them as primary.

TWO

We do not do many treasure hunts or relay races or such "physical" contests because we are busy DJing. You are probably not aware that this might pose a problem, but it does -- operating as a DJ leaves little room for organizing and monitoring a physical contest. There are many occasions where listeners will hold such contests with respect to the party that is being held, and we'll announce the event on the air for those interested.

THREE

We do not do regular "hardcore" trivia because we get mad complaints about it, and we'd rather not deal with the grief. Our listeners come from all over the world, and whether or not someone is interested and knowledgable in science fiction movies, geography, history, or the layout of West Athen does not apply to fairness across the world. Lottery-style contests are a much more fair spread. Granted that we DO do trivia, but not that often due to past (and realistic) complaints.

FOUR

How a DJ distributes the credits he/she has for a show is up to him/her. If a DJ has 10 million credits to give away for example, they might decide to do 10 contests for 1 million each, 2 contests for 5 mil each, or 1 for all 10 at some point in the show. ALL methods are equally fair and equally feasible, there is nothing more than individual opinion separating how lucrative any method is. I personally give fewer contests for more credits on my shows, but I know that most others do the opposite. To each their own.

FIVE

I know you think you're being honest and constructive, but you're coming off as rude and tactless. It's not cool.

Thread closed.

[Lauri]

I feel I was short on this one. You haven't said why this wouldn't work, please enlighten me. I seriously doubt you have tried it in the way I want it, because I see no back sides.

All credibility you have in this debate/argument/discussion is now null.

The way you "want it"? How about GSP continues to hold/manage/administer contests the way GSP "wants" to.

Have a nice day.