When does online-game fervor become addiction?

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Postby Plesk » Sun Feb 27, 2005 7:23 pm

It was more of a commentary on society in general, than to this specific case. This story just made me think about it. :)
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Postby Crushproof » Sun Feb 27, 2005 11:00 pm

Cheers Plesk! You articulated exactly what I was thinking.
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Postby Nexeus » Mon Feb 28, 2005 6:53 pm

You know the thing that gets me, is that games are blamed for just about everything - I used to take the stance that it isn't the media's fault and what you see on tv does not effect what children do. I've had to retract that stance just a bit because it is wrong. The media DOES have an effect what children, and people do, BUT ISN'T THE ENTIRE REASON FOR BLAME! It's more like what they see on tv or what they do can cause a possibility of repeating those actions.

I've watched a ton of movies that include, sex, drugs, and cigarrets, and I'm not smoking, taking any illegal stubstanced or getting laid every day (*cough*movingon*cough*). It was how you were raised, what you believe and what your beliefs are. Also, PARENTS, check up on your kids. You see... the problem is that soo many families and people rely on television to raise your kids.. when you don't parent and spend time with your kids, regardless of they hate your guts (they don't, the suckers still ask you for money don't them?), you end up with perfectly sane members of society who aren't going to shoot themselves, kids, etc, etc, etc.

YES, what you see on TV does have an effect... but it takes over when the media becomes the parent.

Christ Rock said it best, although on a different subject, but i think it applies, "When I go to the ATM out tonight, I'm not looking for the media... I'M LOOKING FOR N***AS'. SH*T Mike Wallace an't do nothing to me... N***AS have!"

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Like most things its about moderation and understanding your limits, we DJ's go to this all of the time. I understand and like this woman's organization, but I only hope that she helps parents become better parents .[/end afterthought]
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Postby Mumon » Mon Mar 14, 2005 8:17 am

I hear a common argument made by gamers is "It's just people don't want to accept responsibilty for a bad event" when they try to say that the people that blame games are off base.

But let us be all honest here... I'll use an example.

If one of us (a GSP listener) shot our selves dead and left GSP on the tunner, people might try to blame both AO and GSP for our Death. Most people in the world (including most GSP listeners) would only hear what was said on national telivision and then relayed here for the others that don't watch much TV. It's likely that if a note was left that none of us would ever know the words on that note. About the only way we would know anything on the note is if AO or GSP was dirrectly mentioned in the note (IE: I just can't take the twinking anymore...) and even then we would only know the parts that point the blame at either AO or GSP.

Most of us would likely deny that AO or GSP had anything to do with this person's death, and that it was just a sad person that needed help. We would almost all likely say that we had no idea that anything was wrong with the person, or if we admited we knew something was wrong with them, we would tell our selves that they had been messed up anyways and it wasn't us that pushed them to make that final desision. We would say the parrents should take responsiblity for their kid killing them selves and that it was likely some event at home that pushed them.

And here I am rambling, so I get to the point quickly here. EVERYTHING pushes people. Games are not to blame, just as much as parents are not to blame, and TV is not to blame, as the girlfriend is not to blame, as the dog is not to blame. EVERYTHING is to blame. Nobody realy can point to any one moment and say that was the point that pushed them over the edge. That was the point that is to take all blame. That is the point that should be distroyed because it is evil.

Online games do add to people killing themselves. Just think of all the hateful and spiteful things you have heard people say during an online game. Does this mean that Online games should be shut down? Not at all, if that was the case then any place where you might hear hateful and spiteful things should be shut down.

I'm just saying gamers should stop saying games are all innocent. I'm also saying that the news shouldn't be trying to be placing all the blame on games. When someone takes their own life, even with a suicide note it can be very hard to know exactly what had been going through their mind before they died.

I dislike gamers saying games are innocent, with the news saying games are to blame as much as I dislike smokers saying smoking doesn't hurt, with Truth.com saying smoking kills everyone. Those are extremes, that are both wrong. Games and Smoking are unhealthy (Ok so smoking is more unhealthy) but this doesn't mean that everyone that plays games or smokes is going to be wrecked as a person.
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