Drunk on the air

[Yhee Bee]

I'm hoping last night's "show" isn't going to be a regular thing... settling in with GSP for a little Friday night AO is something my guildmates and I have been really enjoying, but after enduring a couple of hours of last night's sloppy little performance, we eventually just gave up and tuned out.

The highlights:
Three drunk djs (I don't want to name any names) slurring and belching into microphones (literally) while they talked (seemed like endlessly) about little adventures they've had together recently at strip clubs and cowboy bars.

The male guest dj complaining that the woman dj was drinking too slowly and encouraging her to guzzle her beer, resulting in her apparently collapsing into a stupor.

A male dj describing his attempts to wipe his boogers on the woman dj (heard periodically screaming in the background), then going on to describe his hairy butt-hole, and his butt-hairs on the toilet seat. (Really)

Then more laughter about the woman dj passing out, and discussions regarding something about threesomes with "Norwegian chicks"...

Great images, huh?

I mean come ON. Maybe this kind of stuff is funny for about five minutes, if you are 14, (although brainless adolescent misogyny is never funny) but when it goes on and on and on it's just pathetic and embarrassing. Seeing the boys typing "[She] rocks!!!" because she was a drunk woman slurring and burping and talking about people "doing her" was just so...sad.

I don't have anything against social drinking and having fun, and I think I have pretty good sense of humor, but last night just wasn't funny. It sounded like GSP had been crashed by three adolescents who had just discovered alcohol, congratulating themselves for having just the sheer wild-assed audacity to be drunk on the air (w00t)...it was just cringe-inducing. Listening to people talk about how drunk they are is just boring and dumb. It was a total drag for my guildmate and me because listening to GSP has really become key to holding what's left of our org together.

I mean I assume GSP is intended for the entire Rubi-Ka audience, not just some little frat-house mutual admiration society bragging about how much beer they're drinking and flirting with each other's 'toons, which is what it sounded like last night. I realize that GSP is a volunteer service and everything, but one of the great things about it is that it usually maintains a pretty high professional standard--it makes the whole AO experience seem so much more real and interesting, and I never imagined that I would be tuning it out because I couldn't stand to hear any more sad drunk-girl belching and doodoo jokes.

I'm just writing this because I love GSP; it's what has kept me playing AO, and I want someone up there to maybe see about making sure that it doesn't deteriorate into a collection of adolescents vomiting into microphones.

I totallly admire Veldron for switching to coffee drinks on the air, and he's a lot more fun to listen to now--more lucid, witty, and articulate...just a lot more entertaining. I think the other dj's would do well to follow his example. On-air drunkeness just sounds so lame and sloppy.

I realize last night was just one night, (I don't think I'm over-reacting--I just type a lot) but I think about someone tuning in for the first time last night...what a first impression it must have been. My assumption is that the people who put GSP together and keep it going want it to be somewhat professional. I don't think it would hurt to maintain some professional standards.

Ah well, if people want to burp and fart into microphones, that's perfectly ok with me and my org; freedom of speech rock on, "intended for mature audiences" and all that (really pushing the definition of the word "mature" here though). This is not moral outrage or a call to censor the dj's at all, but I think most people out of puberty realize that there's a difference between hearing the word "fuck" crop up in a song lyric and listening to a young woman basically pass out on the air while her male friends egg her on. That's just pure sad and uncomfortable. Many more shows like last night and we'll just be listening to something (anything) else--just because we want to have a better time than that.

[Katieblu]

I am saddened by how you feel. I was not forced to drink, I was having a great time. My opinion on the whole situation is that if you don't like it, turn it off. GSP is full of diversity. For example we play what we like, act how we want to, and really just are here to entertain. I might play hip-hop, Otori will play techno, and Veldron may play rock, but we all have the same idea of what GSP is. We are an entainment guild. We are here to entertain the people of Rubi-Ka. Long time listeners know how much I love to burp on air, that may seem gross to others, but I am just expressing myself in a not so feminine form. I am sorry if you do not like who I am, or how I act, but I am not willing to change myself simply because I am "on air". People who know me know that i am not rude, or gross. There are several sides to me. Please do not judge me for last night's show. If you did not like last night's show or thought we acted like "frat boys" I do not know what to say. Please remember that these shows are also for mature audiences. Thank you drive through please.

[Otori]

I'll let this one float for a while before I censor it away.

Katie and I have a friend in town and we had some fun. If you want conservative talk radio, you can hit the AM dial. There's no reason to "disguise" the names, it was myself, Azzors and Katieblu. And I think Katie sums it up nicely, turn it off if you don't like it.

Comment away....

[Lauri]

Hi Yhee.

This is a touchy topic(drunkenness ).... especially for myself, but personal issues aside... I am completely aware and understand your concern. This is also a hard topic for me to address, because I'm not just an opinionated fan of GSP... I'm also a DJ! (hehe)

I, personally, do not drink on air. I don't really drink that much, period. I've always thought "it's okay to do", if it didn't go overboard. Because, well, we're representin' GSP out there! Then again, what is GSP? A collaboration of different personalities, to bring entertainment to Rubi-Ka. Was anyone entertained last night? I'm quite sure someone was.

Was *I* entertained? For a while. I pretty much took Katieblu's advice, up there, and tuned out; "Boogers" and juvenile humour isn't on my list of "fun". I have to say that yes, I would have been kinda "wtf'd" if I had been a first time listener.. but I don't think GSP will always cater to every new listener. I'm sure first-time people have tuned in on my show, and gotten rather bored, and tuned out.

I understand your points, either way, I can't really offer anything but that. With that said, I don't think we'll need to "censor" this thread as long as you folks behave.

[Ashval]

I guess I feel the same as Lauri on this issue. I fail to see why "censoring" is even being brought up. If we can't listen to complaints or concerns from our listeners, what does that say about us?

I'm also one who chose to tune out last night. I've often enjoyed the hell out of Otori's shows, but I saw where last night's show was headed and it wasn't something I wanted to listen to. That's my own personal choice, as it is for any of us. I'm generally VERY anti-censorship in any way, shape or form. However, I agree that there should be a degree of professionalism maintained in how we, as DJ's, choose to entertain the listeners. I think 99.9% of the time, GSP does that very well.

Again, I wasn't listening for most of last night's show. So, I don't feel like I should comment on what was or wasn't going on during the show. Having quit drinking recently, it's difficult for me to be around an environment where a lot of people are doing just that. I felt out of place at the party because of my own personal issues I'm dealing with. I'd never dare tell anyone that they shouldn't drink as much as they wish, or act as they wish while doing so. I'd definitely fall into the category of "hypocrite" if I even considered it.

I'm a little uncomfortable, however, when two loyal listeners to GSP are complaining about the content of a show...and we're portraying an attitude that basically says, "turn it off if you don't like it."

Sorry, but that's the way I feel.

[Kirasha]

Uh, I rarely post here, and never on "important topics" because I hate that people will think "eh, that's Veldron's fiancee" but I did want to comment on last night's show. I left about halfway through, but was tuned in for most of it. I've never had a problem with the occassional on-air belching and potty humor, the majority of the DJ's do that, no big deal.

Last night's show wasn't really anything to get in an uproar over, but I wanted to say that SaintBoo and Yhee Bee did have a point - there were a few times it was funny, and there were quite a few times I was going "ugh, wtf guys." Boogers, non-stop belching, talking about hairy asscheeks and putting slugs on people, retching sounds...I know you guys were just fooling around but there was just so MUCH of all of that was going on over and over again, it was kinda potty humor overload. It was probably a hilarious time over at O-man's house but it was more like one of those you had to be there types of things, with some people going "what the heck is going on?" The part with Katie coughing/retching was probably a joke but it was so chaotic at points that I couldn't tell if she was honestly throwing up on the air or just faking that she was.

I luv ya both (from one Okie to another) but before you get all PO'd on some these posts, please remember that people wouldn't post about it if they didn't honestly feel like they needed to. You know me, I've never been one to mince words or tell people what they wanted to hear, and I always tell my friends my honest opinion. Assuming you still consider me a friend right now.

Luv,

Kira

[Vallikat]

Please remember that these shows are also for mature audiences.

I'm not sure that can be said of last night's show.

Having said that, I'll give you the rest of my 2 cents. I missed most of what occured once Katieblu took the mic from Otori. But I tuned back in towards the end of Katie's stint and I heard things that I have never heard before on a GSP show. As a long time listener and major gsp fangirl, I was a tad dismayed. However, when I reached a point that I didn't want to hear it anymore, I tuned out. Of course I was also ready for bed by then and would've tuned out anyway, but that's beside the point.

Something I learned many moons ago in the customer service biz was "perception is reality." GSP provides a service. We're you're customers. If we all tune out, if we all start listening to other things, GSP isn't going to last. If new listeners perceive that GSP DJ's are all a bunch of drunken monkeys they will quickly become former listeners and will not be so likely to recommend GSP to their friends.

Now, of course, I know that GSP isn't very likely to fade out any time soon and I know that you have enough of a fan base to keep you going for some time to come. I'm just saying, that as defensive as I'm sure you must feel, you also have to have some respect for your listeners. IMO last night's show crossed a line that was perhaps better off uncrossed. It seems, also IMO, that your responses are saying, "if you don't like it STFU and tune out." I'm just not sure that's the wisest of responses.

You know I love you guys and I'll still tune in. I know lots of other people out there who still will tune in as well. I know this was an isolated incident. You didn't really mean to peirce my eardrums with your screams, did you Katieblu?

Yhee, pay special attention to the fact that I stated that this was something I had not heard on GSP before. I'm not saying you don't hear drunkeness. Its just ...how do I put this.. .. a little better controlled on most occasions.

*love and huggles*

[Otori]

Taking it all in stride....as I always do. Yes, we were having a good time. NO, Katie wasn't really puking, and YES we were all just joking around. 99.99999999% of the time I strive for PERFECTION on my shows, I'm actually quite anal about it.........as most of you know. So I let loose and had a good time. GSP wasn't built on pleasing one listener or coralling our DJ's into specific rules....we have got to where we are by BEING OURSELVES, and being very accessible to listeners because we are everyday people that play AO too, and do the things everybody else does. I mean good god, Azzors is hanging out with us because we met him in AO, in the same way Kirasha, Laance, and Lordangst have in the past. Sure come on over, have a good time...thats all we were doing. I've handled plenty of criticism in the past because I don't put up with griefers, and made myself very vocal about that (on the air too, which I shouldn't have done), and I welcome the criticism here too BUT

the thing that chaps my hyde about this is that the post was started by a "loyal listener" that has a grand total of 2 posts on these forums. I've been doing this gig for a long time, and I've seen more listeners come and go than I care to even count. GSP does their thing, regardless. As I said before, 99% of the time I'm nothing short of a professional, and actually have been a professional DJ, so if you didn't like our antics on one particular night, then I apologize that you were offended. If you decide not to listen to any more of my shows, it doesn't hurt my feelings one iota, but we are a diverse group of people, so suck it up and drive on.

[Demongirl]

i missed the show last night, but there have been occasional times where the potty humor of a few too many drinks has caused me to stop the stream... but that's exactly why you should use winamp (or similar player) to listen. If the music sucks to you or the dj's are getting so drunk that you hear their IQ drop then it's time to minimize AO and play your own damn music. I'm sure it would suck to just tune in for the first time during one of these drink-fests, but many listeners are tuned in to GSP first during an in-game event, such as the anniversary bash.

Just do what you'd do if someone like Howard Stern ended up on your favorite radio station, tune out if you don't like it. it's not the same 24/7, it's just one DJ's show, and this is just my 2 credits.

on a side note, i am a loyal listener and my postcount is only 29... shouldn't bring postcount into it because I don't think any mod really wants to have to keep deleting farmer posts.

[Oddysee]

I don't think any mod really wants to have to keep deleting farmer posts.

Yeah, damn post farmers... *cough*

Anyway, I actually have to side with Otori on this one. It's a one off. People get drunk. They act drunk. Shouldn't happen all the time, but then, it doesn't. I wasn't entirely amused during most of it. So in the end, I tuned out and went to bed. If nothing else, it was nice to have a bit of deversion tho' (always look at the bright side ^^). So they got a lil' too drunk... We all do from time to time. Live and learn.

About being offensive. I don't know. People have varying definitions of offensive. I'm pretty sure I'd be illigal in most states and probably hung in a few too. Yet I consider myself to be of a rather solid sense of humour... Will laugh at mostly anything given I'm in the mood. Some people find "fart jokes" offensive. Some find butthair offensive. Personally, neither bother me.
It's no more than what you make of it. Sure, the concerns of listeners should not be ignored. But then, neither should the fact that it is a one of situation. "If you don't like it, don't listen" might seem harsh. But at the end of the day, changing drasticly because someone was upset is more so. Imagine if we couldn't play doom because someone didn't like the word "fuck". I know the comparison is not as close as it could be, but you get the idea. It should not be ignored. Probably deminished. But let's not start armageddon over this. It was a show, and as with all shows, some episodes are good. Some are not. Just don't watch (tune in) the ones you don't like. If we'd all followed this strategy the "Anna Nicole Smith Show" would have been taken off air before it even began. Imagine how wonderful that would have been! ^^




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[Kioko]

I'll make my comment short and sweet. I tuned out last night because the show wasn't my cup of tea. I have about 15 Live365 stations in my favorites list. When I don't like something... I simply switch stations. I don't think last night's show was anything to get too worked up about. Anyone who listens to GSP regularly knows that last night's performance was a rare occassion. GSP listeners also understand that each DJ has thier own personality and method of entertaining. There are certain GSP DJs that I absolutely love, and then there are some that I choose not to tune into at all. The rules for radio are the same as television: When you dislike the program, you change channels. As far as new listeners are concerned... the chance of a significant amount of new listeners tuning in last night for the first time is slim. If there was a planned event or something of that nature, I am sure the show would have been different.

That's just my . Cheers.

[Demongirl]

...with so much drama in the GSP...

[Cowtipper]

I have more than 2 posts! Woot! Also, I have been here for over a month. I have seen almost all of the shows except for jen's... she's up too late for me. Sorry, but I am too much of a wuss to stay up that late. Anyway, I decided to give my own opinion since I am obviously qualified. I'm not a DJ or anything cool like that, in fact I only rate a 2 on the coolness scale (1-10 btw). Also my name has the word cow in it, which is awesome.

I started reading through the posts here, pondering what my own reaction would be in the same situation. Each time I went to post a response or opinion, it seemed like there was a new one to read. Then a shiny thing sparkled down the hallway so I went and looked at that for a few hours, but now I'm back! In blue instead of black. Or Green.

I've read all the responses here, from DJ and listener alike, in this thread and the one in the NRG forum. Rather than voice my opinion in the standard way, or give the praises and rants, I am going to talk about onions.

Yes, onions. onions-usa.org states that onions can be divided into two categories: spring/summer fresh onions and fall/winter storage onions. This fact has absolutely no part in my post, but it sounded like a good point to talk about onions.

There are many layers to onions. In fact, the onion is almost an infinite number of layers. Each layer can bring a stronger odor and shade of color.

Oh, I found something where that different categories of onions can fit in. See there are different colored onions, and they can have different textures. There's also those bastard green onions. You know, those things that look like sticks. They are green and everything, but why the hell can't they look like the other onions? Maybe that's why people like that onion, it thinks different.

So we have all these different shades and types of onions available for different times of the year (or week depending on how you like variety). Onions have different strength in flavor as well. Sometimes the onion can be a little strong, and some people don't like that. Onions-usa.org suggests that if a yellow onion is a little strong, a red or white onion has less of a flavor.

Nobody can force you to eat onions. In fact, I don't like onions that much. I like onions on certain foods, like onion rings, but I don't like it in my chinese food. Damn those chinese people for using onions, just give me peas and carrots.

Onions range in size as well, and some of them get pretty big. Women say that size doesn't matter. It's what you do with your onion that counts. Sometimes more than one onion is okay, but it can be a little strong and demanding, so some women prefer you to use only one onion.

Damn, Texas produces a lot of onions. Oklahoma produces some onions, but it looks like potatos are more popular there. OKs love their spuds.

So, if you like me and you don't like onions in certain foods, then pick them out or ask for no onions or just don't eat the food and say you're on a diet. Do you really need to eat that? Ask yourself.

Just be thankful I went to bed early. While some of the stuff described above would have grossed me out as well, I probably would have been laughing grossed out. I think I am qualified to be able to do that. My name is Cowtipper afterall.

[Jugsmalone]

Hello I was at the party in the begining for a short time but had to leave I have always enjoyed Otori an his show...... I canhonestly say ihave never found him offensive in the past and if wht allhas said happened I am glad i was not thier for it...... I say to each his own and live and let live....... this is a game to be enjoyed and to have fun with if yu are not haeing fun than it is time to do something differnt I am sure Otori was not trying to offend any one and i would not have enjoyed such antics but if he was haveing fun and was not harming any one than so be it do what the others did and tune out but come back another night and see if things are more to your likeing i think banning moans and swearing is just wrong let ppl be themselves if a little moan is a turn on so be it it is not harmfull to anyone if you dont like watching someone humping the dj ask them to stop but do it politely or leave .... tomorrow it will be differnt just remember the people here will form opiinions and will interpt things inthier own way so it dont matter if your a saint or a sinner you willnever ever make everyone happy and we have all done things or said things in game that we wished we could take back ......I think GSP rocks and i dont always listen to every DJ but i would say gridsteam is playing 90 percent of my day on and off line

[Switchfront]

HAHAHAHAH Cowtipper ownz j00 all!...

Nuff said stfu, I think I hear dora the explora on!

"We did it, WE DID IT! H00RAY!"

[Darth Bootay]

/me bows so deeply to Cowtipper her ponytails sweep the dust at her feet.

OMGz. Ever consider life as a Bootayist monk?

[Tacz]

Woohoo Cowtipper!

"You see... Ogres... They're like onions..."

"Ohh, you leave em out in the sun they turn brown and start sproutin hairs..."

[Boinky]

Something I learned many moons ago in the customer service biz was "perception is reality." GSP provides a service. We're you're customers. If we all tune out, if we all start listening to other things, GSP isn't going to last.

Well the problem with that comment is that unlike most customer service-type positions, GSP does not charge us a dime. And even still they almost always crawl over broken glass to give us what we want(though I know 1 DJ who could play a certain song for me at least once )

OK I didn't hear the show. Reading the accounts I may have even tuned out during it. Or also possibly if I was very much into the game I'd likely not have even noticed it much.

GSP offers us this stations broadcasts for free, asking nothing in return. Don't like it then don't listen. Isn't it as simple as that?

[Gridfan]

We'll spank Otori at the next GSP meeting. (but I fear he might like that, or Katieblu will demand she'll get to do the spanking as usual. *sigh*)

But seriously, risking putting words in Otori's mouth. (which is always very direct and straight from the gut when it comes to his views and oppinions I'm sure Otori will make a mental note of the feedback.

GSP love pushing the borders, things that mainstream DJ's never would do, or could not do for fear of getting fired.

But despite pushing the boundries, we try to avoid crossing it.
We hate offending people, but now and again it happens and it's not intentional, not much more than to say oops, sorry about that.
And then just move on.

GSP will continue to entertain, amuse, make people gaps, or shock and horrify them. That is GSP, you never know what will happen next.
We're wild, out of control, and make no sense at all most of the time hehe!

But please don't be afraid to speak up if there are issues, we love feedback, and if we really steps heavily on someones feet, we prefer to know about it!

[Otori]

And mind you we prefer to hear about it in an private sense, not as a public post. I'm a moderator on these forums along with a few others and my open-mindness allowed me to leave this thread open for opinions and discussions, but in the future please contact somebody privately (Tarryk or Xtrophic or even Gridfan).