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Clan or omni? (I have no idea, im just a crazy Atrox)

Postby Ichyro » Mon Nov 25, 2002 2:27 am

Hey, new to the forum but I'm becomming a big fan of Gridstream, almost always listening to it when im on the Pc, and even got a few fans from the G4 forums to come to one of the Reets Retreat Parties, enough of the sucking up i guess and on to the point.


I'm torn between Omni and Clan, and each side has something bad and good. Clans have a TON of people, i can go to the middle island in Tir or the Happy Rebel and see +30 people, and during Notum Wars they will probably mob over the Omni mines and towers, but Omni's got more lower lvls on alot (Waited 2 friggin hours in tir, asking if any teams were forming on prime time 3-5 Saturday, noone was formin one), and the great Omni-pol Armor. So I'll consult the Uber leets here on this, for Pvping, for Notum Wars, for Guilds, as a Soldier or Trader, Omni-tech or Clan or as Tarryk suggested to people not able to decide, Neutral...haha, Go Neutral, thatd be funny.
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Postby Tarryk » Mon Nov 25, 2002 2:51 am

Thanks for listening (and getting others to) Ichyro! :)

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THE DEFAULT GENERIC RESPONSE (da da dummmmm!)

Clan and Omni both have advantages and disadvantages. Here's the way I see it:

CLANNERS are more abundant and concentrated in popular areas, so your chances of finding a guild to join and/or a team to go kick some ass with are very good. More interaction, hence faster levelling and ... um ... more interaction. :)

OMNIS are less abundant but more organized. An omni guild is more likely to be a strategic organization with a good chain of command, and will do better in mass-PvP combat during the Notum Wars. They also get more equipment and loot from hunting/missions than clanners do.

NEUTRALS are nerfed and gimped, and only for the die-hard pure roleplayer's "ultimate challenge".
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Postby Sharonne » Mon Nov 25, 2002 6:41 pm

Tarryk wrote:NEUTRALS are nerfed and gimped, and only for the die-hard pure roleplayer's "ultimate challenge".


Yes Tarryk is right.. if you're interested in spam leveling, pvp, uber twinking and that sort you don't want to come join us.. we have no chea..*ahem* token board and no cool armour.. we have boring cities with no superior nano stores and we get shot at by everyone... so move along.. nothing to see here....

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Postby Tarryk » Mon Nov 25, 2002 6:44 pm

Gotta respect any neutral who sticks it out for as long as they do. :)
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Postby Sharonne » Mon Nov 25, 2002 7:02 pm

Yeah!.... uhm.. no no.. they are madmen.. to play the game nerfed.. idiots.
Yes that is what they are.. *phew*
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Postby Mummu » Mon Nov 25, 2002 7:58 pm

the neutral citys r the only citys that looks good!

all those oc citys are only big, ugly, dirty, dark, laggy...........
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Postby Sharonne » Mon Nov 25, 2002 8:12 pm

And you're telling me newland is not laggy?
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Postby Myers » Mon Nov 25, 2002 10:16 pm

There is not a city on this planet that is boring or unlikable.
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Postby Tarryk » Tue Nov 26, 2002 1:12 am

Must agree with Mr First Poster on that one.
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Postby Ichyro » Tue Nov 26, 2002 1:18 am

Thats sorta ironic since Funcom wanted (I think) clans to have unorganized and large groups and omni with powerful small groups.

And hearing that the sentinels liberated Tir, does that mean i cant come in (With ICC guards) and yell "Clanners! We'll give you showers and soap if you join us!!" anymore? :D
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Postby Nyxelle » Sun Dec 01, 2002 10:53 am

OOC, I like neutrals. I always will. The majority of my characters are neutral and have RP reasons for such. I don't really plan to change it just because of Notum Wars or any "nerfs" made to neutrals. If it changes, it changes because something in the IC world (such as the characters friends and/or family... or maybe a particularly unkind or die hard player guns them down in a pvp area, if I were them I'd be kind of cross over being shoot at and probably decide I don't like that person OR their "side" very much) has made them feel it'd be the better choice. Tokens and "special" armor are nice, but -giving- people MORE of a reason to shoot at me isn't (as I assume most omni players would jump at the chance to shoot a clanner rather than a neutral and vice versa). Plus PVP just doesn't appeal to me. I don't like being bothered unless I bother them first..... which, isn't likely because I don't like being bothered and if I bother them it gives them a reason to bother me... Yes, I rant and I'm confusing, but ah well. Anyway! Neutrals rock and Borealis is STILL one of the best places to hang out. Less laggy than most other cities I've seen, store placements and apartments are conveniently close to the whompas and it has the really beautiful waterfalls just outside the city. ^_^ You can't ask for much more... except for clanners and omni people to stop shooting at you or trying to recruit you. Heh. Oh, Borealis is also just a whompa away from Reets. It doesn't get any better. ;)
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Postby Sharonne » Sun Dec 01, 2002 6:16 pm

Hear Hear! *applaudes*
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Postby Ichyro » Tue Dec 03, 2002 6:03 pm

You neuts are like the other guys in ww2, first the nazis then the allies. I mean as in your allways helping clanners against Omni. Well since Omnis getting a royal Planetside-like Asswhupping, I'm succumbing to a Trader Clanner. Whats the bigest guild (Part of Obsidian, love how many there are in it) partisipating in NW thats a Clan?

And Atrox Trader pvp, or Solitus trader pvp?
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Postby Nyxelle » Tue Dec 03, 2002 9:03 pm

Well, not really. I couldn't care less if someone's clan or omni, so long as they're not shooting at me. If someone has a reasonable request for assistance and I have the free time, I'll assist them, regardless of their faction. I've got a few omni friends and a few clanner friends. They may not like each other but that doesn't mean I have to pick a side and favor one over the other, because I might as well not be neutral then and just pick a side... What would be the point to being a "gimped" neutral if I favor one side anyway? You guys seem to think clan and omni have so many advantages -- and sure, they do, but I don't want to be part of the fight, which means not favoring anyone just because of faction, but rather, favoring them because of how they treat ME, regardless of MY faction. :p If a clanner treats me poorly, I'll tell him to take a hike. If an Omni-tek employee treats me poorly, I'll tell him to go take a hike along with the clanner who did. I don't care what faction people are, just their personality, how they present themself, and how they treat others. After all, that's what really counts anyway, not some silly label.
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Postby Ichyro » Wed Dec 04, 2002 2:45 am

Wow, a non-evil citizen of Rubi Kai, you are very rare nowadays lol.

But that did make the most sense, some people try to be evil to clans if there omni, as my Ma i tried helping a Lions Guild guy (whos guild attacked us and we attacked them) since he was too high to take me on, had a nice chat, just in combat i like killin omnis/clans.
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Postby Nyxelle » Wed Dec 04, 2002 3:07 am

We're rare? o.o; I know at least a few other people who're the same way. I guess we just stay in hiding or something, heh. But yeah, I think it's really about how someone treats you rather than their label. =p After all, the clans only decided to go against Omni-tek because Omni-tek was treating them poorly. Had Omni-tek treated them more like the human beings they were rather than just another number, just another dollar, then they wouldn't have ever gone against OT anyway. That's not to say I have a problem with Omni-tek, because I really don't care. But it's an example of why the way someone treats you should at least be a factor in the decision of liking or disliking them, rather than just saying, "Because you're soandso faction and I come from this opposing faction, I'm going to kill you"... Granted, I'm sure there are plenty of people who think that way. But thankfully, being a neutral, I'm not inclined to have to put up with the faction thing... well, normally. There will always be people who hate neutrals, I guess... but maybe those people really just envy the fact that the neutrals don't constantly have to fight a war with someone else, because at least ICC and Omni-tek do leave them alone, for the most part. Granted, I AM inclined to want to give OT a swift kick every time they claim neutrals as part of their employees, 'cause that's not the case.

But as for pvp issues, ooc, I suppose you'd find it easier on a side. It's hard to say which would be best, really, because I don't pvp unless I have to (i.e., some moron decides to attack me even though I'm trying to mind my own business and get from point a to point b). Clan areas often seem to have more people, Omni-tek areas I find to be harder to navigate (gah, all those stupid skyscrapers look the same...). Both get tokens, but I think OT has more armor (depending on what profession you are?). For RP purposes... If you haven't read it, check the time-line AO has for events that led up to the clans breaking away from Omni. It may give you a better sense of what everyone is really fighting for, and it could greatly influence your decision for which side you'd prefer to roleplay. That's assuming you roleplay, though. ;)

And.... /rant off. Sorry! O.o lots of typing...
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Postby Ichyro » Wed Dec 04, 2002 7:42 pm

Well seeing how Omni-tech is treating clans very badly, and that the clans treat omni better.

For example during a fight i was too low to do anything, so i danced. All of a sudden a few clans walked up to me and started applauding and watching. Omni woulda fragged my ass if i was a clanner. Think i said that a post ago.
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Postby Nyxelle » Wed Dec 04, 2002 8:19 pm

Not really sure of that one, myself, since I don't get involved in the conflicts. I like the dancing part, though. ^_^ Heh... if only Omni and the Clans decided to settle their war THAT way. A dance contest of some sort and GSP can dj it. ;) Though, that's likely one thing the clans and omni will never do, they'd probably rather frag one another into oblivion. :roll: I have to say, though, I respect the people who -didn't- shoot you since you obviously weren't a threat to them. At least they know how to have fun, it sounds like. Though anymore, I'd say both Omni and the Clans treat each other pretty bad. Some of the clans (...Dust Brigade comes to mind) are a bit... Crazy, to say the least. In that case, if I were Omni, I could see the "shoot first and ask questions later" aspect, because those guys are just lunatics. Suppose it's a good thing we have Epicine to take care of them for us. :wink: Of course, that's not to say ALL the clans are violent, bloodthirsty lunatics... Because that's not true. They're many different groups and each has it's own ideals, beliefs and way of doing things. Omni may be more "united" and they do have one person to represent them as a whole... But even Omni has its internal problems. Seeing how neither side can really agree on how to deal with the issue at hand, s'hard to say who'll win in the end. Maybe it's not so much the winning though, as it is the road they take to get to that victory.

However... Seeing as GSP is clan, if fun is what you're looking for... I'd go clan. :P If you like more rigid and organized structure... Omni. 'course... there was that Acme port-a-jail incident.... I don't think Omni-pol will ever live that one down. :lol:
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Postby Tir_McDohl » Wed Dec 04, 2002 9:13 pm

Heh... if only Omni and the Clans decided to settle their war THAT way. A dance contest of some sort and GSP can dj it.


Dance Dance Rebellion? Maybe Dance Dance Anarchy?

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Postby Nyxelle » Wed Dec 04, 2002 9:48 pm

*laughs* Well, it is an amusing thought. I've seen some pretty good dancers hanging out around Reets, I'd love to see them compete. And what better reason to do so than for the honor/glory of whatever faction you decided to side with? Besides, the "Dance Dance Rebellion" title just sounds really interesting. *pause* Suddenly, I am reminded of a particular type of "martial arts" which was centered on making it look like dancing (due to the fact that it was developed by slaves, and it was not legal for them to fight, so they fooled their captors by making it look like dancing rather than fighting... creative people!). Capoeira I do believe it was called. That... was totally random.

But, anyway... I think the dance contest would be interesting to see. Even if it's not faction-based. ;)
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