Movie: Sunshine (OMG)

[Tarryk]

It's such a shame that the best-looking sci-fi's always get limited releases because too many people are WAY too main-stream about their scifi subgenres. Which is why Serenity bombed so hard.

This one is another example. I watched the extended preview and went "HOLY S*&T!!!" Definitely a must-see. Opens in my area on the 27th, but I'll be lucky if I can get to see it at it's extremely limited showtimes.

It's going to bomb because of low marketing and no release. And that pisses me off, because from what cast I recognize, they're VERY good actors, and the effects and plot both look absolutely amazing.

http://www.sunshinedna.com/

http://www.apple.com/trailers/fox_searc ... edtrailer/

[Lauri]

Yes! It's a shame, I found this film several months ago... argh!

*bounces around... must see, must see, must see, must see*

[Gridfan]

I've already *cough*seen it*cough* quite a long time ago.

Tarryk, I think you'll like it. Some critics has had some issues with a certain main villain if you will. Screw'em I say.
Just immerse yourself fully into the world of Sunshine.

To see it brought back those old feelings of seeing Alien for the very first time.
It's gritty, realistic (I'm no physics expert so I immersed myself in the story and took the "science stuff" at face value so I really enjoyed it)

What do you get if you mix Alien, Firefly, some 2001/2010, a dash of classic Starwars and Event Horizon and Soldier? Something like Sunshine I guess

(please note that just because I mention certain movies does not mean there are aliens nor lasers or stuff like that, I'm talking more general about the "feel" of the movie and story)

Sunshine truly belong in the Cult classic shelf along with Alien and 2001 movies etc.

I am not entirely sure, but there may be a Directors Cut DVD in the future. (I'm wondering how much Fox execs meddled with the production if at all) I haven't really followed up this movie that much.

But I know I really enjoyed it, it has a slight indie/non-hollywood vibe to it.

[Rehab]

hmmmmm i loved serenity mite try and see this.

I hated it how firefly was cancelled due to ratings >_< they couldve started their own tv station in the UK dedicated to firefly and it would get huge ratings y did firefly not get it i do not understand it was incredible =D

[Meenstreek]

Well hot damn that was an amazing trailer. I'm excited to check out the movie now .

[Stiofain]

Wanted to watch it last night, but we ended up going to the simpsons movie, now there's 45 minutes untill the next showing and I'm crossing my fingers that we make it today. For some reason this is one of the movvies I see having a very short run, and I don't want to miss it like I did Fido, that only ran one week before disappearing.

[Firia]

Prepare yourself for a massive understatement!!

Looks good.

[eadaoin]

well, that movie certainly kicked my ass. (this is a positive expression.) thinking about going to see it again, for all the parts towards the end when i covered my eyes. ack.

[Otori]

Definitely a must see for science fiction/stylized movie buffs. Just saw it today and was quite impressed. Some of the physics/science aspects are a stretch, but it's not a film that dwells on it. What really got me is how genuinely SCARED I was. From about 1/4 through and on, I was twisting in my seat the whole time. It wasn't like a BOO scary, just incredibly tense. The last segment was a little confusing, but that's hard to discuss without being spoilerish. As a side note that I don't believe was mentioned in the final version of the movie, the reason the Sun is dying is because of an encounter with a Qball. If you are a quantum physics guru, you will find that quite interesting. Wikipedia has a decent article on it.

But in the end, it was a very enjoyable ride, filmed beautifully with very nice, subtle acting. It is one I will own on DVD for sure, as there is supposed to be an alternate ending that was quite controversial.

PS. "300" comes out on DVD Tuesday, w00t!

[Tarryk]

the reason the Sun is dying is because of an encounter with a Qball.

Okay THAT'S awesomely unexpected!!

[Otori]

the reason the Sun is dying is because of an encounter with a Qball.

Okay THAT'S awesomely unexpected!!

In its simplest form, a Q-ball is constructed in a field theory of a complex scalar field φ, in which the particle number is conserved. Such a theory is defined by an energy function of the fields, the Hamiltonian, which includes kinetic and gradient terms, and also a potential V(φ * φ). Expanding the potential in powers of φ, the lowest-order term is m2φ * φ, which determines the mass m of the particle. This implies that each particle carries energy of at least m.

The theory contains Q-ball solutions if there are any values of φ * φ at which the potential is less than m2φ * φ. In this case, a volume of space with the field at that value can have an energy per unit charge that is less than m, meaning that it cannot decay into a gas of individual particles. Such a region is a Q-ball. If it is large enough, its interior is uniform, and is called "Q-matter".

That's what I'm talking about. It's a beautiful number, but the breakdown happens at almost sub-quantum levels....if that is even possible. This is where we start second guessing everything. That particular article gives too much to the gradient terms of the curve that would effect the potential energy. Dark matter messes everything up as usual....Nice call for Boyles to do his homework on this type of thing though.

[Gridfan]

Hmm. Dvd with a possible Alternate ending?
Something in the back of my mind ponders if that could have been the original intended ending before the Hollywood Execs poke their noses in.

I'm gonna try my best to not spoil anything, those who have seen it hopefully know what I mean here.

After the actual conclusion to the journey of the crew, there is a sort of post-ending "ending" not involving the crew.

I'm assuming the alternate ending is related to that part? (looks at Otori)
Rather than the one you'd see in theatres *cough*stupid*cough*opera*cough*house* etc.

(Note to self. Get the DVD)

[Cryonic]

Saw the movie tonight, it was okay, a little disjointed at times, but ok.
It is in limited release so the theatre I saw it in kinda sucked.

[Otori]

Hmm. Dvd with a possible Alternate ending?
Something in the back of my mind ponders if that could have been the original intended ending before the Hollywood Execs poke their noses in.

I'm gonna try my best to not spoil anything, those who have seen it hopefully know what I mean here.

After the actual conclusion to the journey of the crew, there is a sort of post-ending "ending" not involving the crew.

I'm assuming the alternate ending is related to that part? (looks at Otori)
Rather than the one you'd see in theatres *cough*stupid*cough*opera*cough*house* etc.

(Note to self. Get the DVD)

That's just what I read Griddy.....On IMDB I think, about the alternate ending, so I could be very wrong. And yeah, it makes it a little hard to talk about without spoiling. But I know for sure, I felt a little empty by the ending I saw. It felt like an audience favorably ending, but maybe we will get some more feedback as people see it....

[Acushla]

the reason the Sun is dying is because of an encounter with a Qball.

Okay THAT'S awesomely unexpected!!

In its simplest form, a Q-ball is constructed in a field theory of a complex scalar field φ, in which the particle number is conserved. Such a theory is defined by an energy function of the fields, the Hamiltonian, which includes kinetic and gradient terms, and also a potential V(φ * φ). Expanding the potential in powers of φ, the lowest-order term is m2φ * φ, which determines the mass m of the particle. This implies that each particle carries energy of at least m.

The theory contains Q-ball solutions if there are any values of φ * φ at which the potential is less than m2φ * φ. In this case, a volume of space with the field at that value can have an energy per unit charge that is less than m, meaning that it cannot decay into a gas of individual particles. Such a region is a Q-ball. If it is large enough, its interior is uniform, and is called "Q-matter".

That's what I'm talking about. It's a beautiful number, but the breakdown happens at almost sub-quantum levels....if that is even possible. This is where we start second guessing everything. That particular article gives too much to the gradient terms of the curve that would effect the potential energy. Dark matter messes everything up as usual....Nice call for Boyles to do his homework on this type of thing though.

runs the math through Babblefish for translation to layman ........................ oh well, still confused O.o

[Tarryk]

Best layman translation: Think of a particle created when the universe formed that is so perfectly symmetrical and stable that it actually REDUCES the instability of particles around it.

Such a particle (called a "Q" ball because of it's perfectly symmetrical physical existence), if put into a highly unstable field (such as the core of a star) would start to turn things stable around it, basically shutting down the reactions that keep that star hot.

That's just what I'm assuming the working theory is on Sunshine, since they're off to deliver a "payload" to apparently kick-start the sun. If it involves Q-balls, then one basically drifted into the sun's core somehow, and had probably been making a "stable" mess in there for a long time before peeps noticed it.

[Gridfan]

"Q" hehe, ehehe , eheheheh.

Sorry, geek moment there. Anyone else recall "Q" from Star Trek The Next Generation? hehhe (lots of respect to TNG writers for that science pun though, I just got it.) hehehehe.

[Rehab]

Just saw the movie and dam its good =D u definetely have to see it. Very Moving near the end =D and the visual is just superb the final scene is just amazing. Oh and of course it shows u wat happens when u over expose ur skin to the sun =D hehe. A must see

[Tarryk]

Finally saw it.

The only slight disappointment I found was that there was no mention (in the theatrical release anyway) of the Q-ball scenario. I was kind of hoping for a little exposition dialogue on the physics of it.

But it was a fantastic movie, and I want to go see it again. Perhaps later tonight if I can since I still have a free pass to use.

Acting and special effects were both so flawless and realistic that I was just in awe from start to finish.

I love two huge points about the character development:

1. It doesn't "feel" like a movie. Thinking of certain parts in particular, you really get sucked in to the feeling that you're on a very real ship with a very real crew, especially when considering their reactions to tense situations.

2. It doesn't waste my time talking about character history. Everything you need to know about a character in order to care about him/her rests almost entirely with their interactions with the environment and with each other, and how each one deals with the brain-bending scope of what they're doing.

Oh, and an added bonus:

3. The score was phenomenal. All too often lately I've been watching movies that try to present some vast scope of intensity in a scene with completely inappropriate or nonexistent background music. Sunrise goes back to the roots while keeping it contemporary: The broad sweep of a symphonic and/or electronic chorus at just the right volume flat-out sells the dramatic intentions of a scene.

[Rehab]

after the film i really do wonder what its like to look at the sun like they did there has to be such beaty in the chaos of the sun