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http://www.apple.com/trailers/paramount/aeon_flux/med.html

Wonder if this'll be any good... Part of me thinks it looks awesome... Part of me thinkgs it looks tackey...


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i think it "looks" awesome definetely not tackey but i think what your [icking up on is it has no life to it. Its exciting looking but when your watching your sitting like hrmmmmm when you should be sitting like

I'm not sure live action could EVER do Aeon Flux justice. You know what, nope, it couldn't. Not without major stylization. (ala Sin City)

But hey, it may be a cool movie. I plan to find out.

The combat seems ok and all... But I just get this eerie feeling that it's a one trick pony... The whole summersaulting over the lawn and such. It seems like a LOT of money shots, but little contents? I mean... I know it's just the trailer... But still... I got a weird feeling about this one...

Seems they're making Bloodrayne too... Now that, looks tackey! Regardless of money shots or not.


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Well, the original series was nothing but stylized shots of somersaults and wacky wierdness too. Turning it into a movie is a classic case of half-love half-hate. True fans of the original will hate it, and people with a desperate hope for a "good movie" will hate it.

I'm under the personal impression that I'll probably enjoy it for a one-time-watch, but not much beyond that.

Can't say I'm a huge fan of Charlize Theron anyway, not lately. IMDB trivia says that she suffered a neck injury in one of the stunts from this movie, and because of that she insisted that she always have a "no stunts" clause in all her contracts. And she always seemed to be a flighty zero-brainer to me, and not the greatest actress.

Tarryk wrote:Well, the original series was nothing but stylized shots of somersaults and wacky wierdness too. Turning it into a movie is a classic case of half-love half-hate. True fans of the original will hate it, and people with a desperate hope for a "good movie" will hate it.

I'm under the personal impression that I'll probably enjoy it for a one-time-watch, but not much beyond that.

I couldn't agree more, but then we're a bit older, Tarryk. I remember Liquid Television (1991-1993) well, when MTV was mostly still music videos. On the other hand, I don't recall too much from when I was 7 or 8 years old.

I think it will be a decent one-off movie, but given the choice of watching other movies out right now like Walk the Line or Jarhead, I might have to catch it on DVD. I still want to see what they do to Aeon even though they changed her outfit so the puritanical American values weren't too offended, Charlize wouldn't be my first choice to star but I couldn't pull another name off the top of my head right now, an unknown probably would have been better imo. It does look pretty cool though.

Lauri wrote:I'm not sure live action could EVER do Aeon Flux justice. You know what, nope, it couldn't. Not without major stylization. (ala Sin City)

ditto

Lauri wrote:I'm not sure live action could EVER do Aeon Flux justice. You know what, nope, it couldn't. Not without major stylization. (ala Sin City)

Exactly.
This is yet another movie that sparks my aggression about cartoons constantly being made into live-action (can you say "Hollywood is out of ideas"?). The cartoon was a @$%$## cartoon for a reason. Live-action, no matter how great your special effects are, can't accomplish what animation can because the live-action is filming the real world as opposed to an entirely new world being drawn from scratch. Aeon doesn't look even remotely right because her animated character wasn't real-world accurate at all - and that was a very important aspect of the series. On the surface it seemed like just a lot of nonsensical jumping around and gratuitous gunfire, but when viewed as a whole the series had some major and deep plot lines that ran throughout. The little bits it was chopped into for Liquid TV made it awfully hard to follow in succession. I have the entire series and would definitely recommend watching it start to finish.

I get all into rages about this cartoon-now-live-action b.s. because I'm a cartoonist and animator, I love the art form, but I constantly see that the US market still thinks of any traditional animation as "for kids" and unintelligent. That's just barely beginning to shift a little now, thanks (a term I use loosely) to all the graphic novels and comic books being made into movies. Still, it's aggravating that people won't even consider reading comics or taking an interest in animation unless it's mutated into a live-action movie and fed to them like hay to sheep. It's also why it's practically impossible to make even a small living doing what I'd like to do (instead of what I'm doing now) because people here just won't give the art form any of the respect it deserves.

So, *turns raging off* Aeon Flux might be a decent movie, but I highly doubt great. I'll see it because I'm a fan, and I'll try really hard to look at it as a stand-alone rather than as being connected/spawed from the cartoon. Even so, I'm not expecting much.

Right, Satan.

I don't plan to watch it as an Aeon Flux movie, myself, but rather just a movie loosely based on the idea.

When it was announced, some time ago, I remember getting really pissy last year about their choices; actress and costume choices, mostly. There isn't enough AF there to make me look at it and actually relate it to the original.

There was some pretty weird shit in AF, and I'm sure it's all be toned down nicely to make a buck off the mainstream, generic sci-fi/action crowd.

Oh well. We still have the real thing.

The worst they could do to this movie is pull a "Running Man" like conversion from one media to another. If you've read the book and seen the movie version you'll get what I mean. Bout the only thing they had in common was the name.

yaknow, I've got the complete series sitting on my desk. No, not the fashionable DVD's, but rather the original VHS's that came out long before the movie was in the makes.

I watched it all before even seeing the trailer. So, it's pretty fresh in my head. I found, that if you're not actually looking at the trailer, Mrs Tharon sounds alot like Aeon. She did a good job there. ^_^ And there area definate hails to the series seen here. But I agree on the feeling that's being had here.

But I'll judge after watching.
(Hell, if it's REALLY bad, I'll just close my eyes and listen to it like radio. ^_^)

Demongirl wrote:I couldn't agree more, but then we're a bit older, Tarryk. I remember Liquid Television (1991-1993) well, when MTV was mostly still music videos. On the other hand, I don't recall too much from when I was 7 or 8 years old.

Don't quite see what that has to do with anything, but regardless...

As for the movie not fitting the comic, yeah, that much is true. but I guess a skinny, muscly semi-naked heroine isn't what the world is looking for atm. That and that hair would be impossible to keep after all the shit she usually does in the cartoon.

I was never really a big fan of it. Granted, I might have been too young the first time I saw it, but even now I don't find it very appeasing. All I saw when I watched it was her die in all the episodes and people having random sex, and then being shot. And while I understand that this was apparently what set it appart at the time, I decided I couldn't be arsed after that. I never gave it another chance. Saw no reason to.
I know that back then that would be enough to make it unique, but since I didn't start watching it till a long time after it's release, there's just so much more out there that I find better. It strikes me as one of those things that are only cool if you consider when it was made. Kinda like Dark Crystal. Back then it was awesome! But today, I doubt many would like it.
Things like this live on because of what it once ment to us, not what it actually is now. Well, most of the time anyway. And with that in mind, I really must say I could never be arsed with this series... Still, I might watch the movie. Doubt it'll do anything for me tho. If it's brewed on the normal "HollyWood approved" plot lines, then it's all been seen and done before.
Evil government, lone hero, yada yada yada, what ever. Unless they stick to what the cartoon was, this will be no different from the rest of the "1984" cloned storylines, even if it is more violent.
I hope they stick to the story. While I didn't care much for it, at least it would set it appart, and thus, be a movie worth watching. If nothing else, then once.

And as for what you wrote Deca', I coulnd't agree more! I'm heading into animation myself, and I know fully well I wont end up doing what I really want, unless the market changes... Still... It's what I like, and I guess as is the case for you, even doing it half-baked, beats not doing it...


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Oddysee wrote:

Demongirl wrote:I couldn't agree more, but then we're a bit older, Tarryk. I remember Liquid Television (1991-1993) well, when MTV was mostly still music videos. On the other hand, I don't recall too much from when I was 7 or 8 years old.

Don't quite see what that has to do with anything, but regardless...

I was never really a big fan of it. Granted, I might have been too young the first time I saw it, but even now I don't find it very appeasing. All I saw when I watched it was her die in all the episodes and people having random sex, and then being shot. And while I understand that this was apparently what set it appart at the time,

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Personally I don't know many Aeon Flux fans much younger than me, most are right around my age, having been exposed to it all in our mid-teenage years. It slipped my mind that it was spun off into it's own series and released on DVD too.

What I meant though was much like you said, you were probably too young at the time and when you finally did it was old news. Yes, much like Dark Crystal, I think you would have had to see it when it was fresh and new grounds. I feel I missed timing on Dark Crystal, Mynka likes it but I've tried watching it with her and our boys and like you said "I don't really find it appeasing."

As for movies made from comics/graphic novels or animations, I cringe, cross my fingers, and hope they don't pull a Spawn move... nice effects but wish I hadn't even watched it on a premium cable TV channel.

Hehe, I rather feel like that about a lot of movies lately ^_^

As for Dark Crystal, I love it! I saw it when I was like 10 and it's been this magical thing ever since!
Kinda like thunder birds, and so many other things, you have to see them when they're still magical to like it later in life. But if once you've got that feeling, it'll never fade!


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Oddysee wrote:As for Dark Crystal, I love it! I saw it when I was like 10 and it's been this magical thing ever since!

Man, I haven't seen The Dark Crystal in years. Used to have it on DVD cause it was one of my favorite movies along with Labyrinth (which had one of the largest puppets in it (the giant gate guard thingie)).

well i hear among this they are going to make a movie of tekken and DOA.

this was wrong from the idea was concieved, but i thought ok they might be able to pull it off. Tekken i havent seen anything but DOA, oh jesus they have messed that up REALLY badly. If you ever see a trailer you will know what i mean

Rayeni wrote:well i hear among this they are going to make a movie of tekken and DOA.

this was wrong from the idea was concieved, but i thought ok they might be able to pull it off. Tekken i havent seen anything but DOA, oh jesus they have messed that up REALLY badly. If you ever see a trailer you will know what i mean

I was focused on something other than how they screwed up DOA when I watched the trailer...

Nicodar wrote:

Rayeni wrote:DOA, oh jesus they have messed that up REALLY badly. If you ever see a trailer you will know what i mean

I was focused on something other than how they screwed up DOA when I watched the trailer...

I just searched for the trailer. It looks horrible... but it doesn't seem horrible to look at.

Just got back from seeing Aeon Flux. It was good. This, of course, is just my opinion. I really enjoyed it.