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Postby earthnut » Thu Aug 04, 2005 2:26 am

con·test Audio pronunciation of "CONTEST" ( P ) Pronunciation Key (kntst)
n.

1. A struggle for superiority or victory between rivals.
2. A competition, especially one in which entrants perform separately and are rated by judges. See Synonyms at conflict.


v. con·test·ed, con·test·ing, con·tests (kn-tst, kntst)
v. tr.

1. To compete or strive for.
2. To call into question and take an active stand against; dispute or challenge: contest a will. See Synonyms at oppose.


v. intr.

To struggle or compete; contend: contested with other bidders for the antique.

Yeah, so why u dont make them actual contests. atleast put a tiny bit of trivia or something. Or u could get smart and do fun stuff like put 10 million on a leet and tell everyone to go leet hunting, but thats best for events not regular DJing. Also item prices is more fun than cash, even if u only get cash as donation u could shop some items and give those out instead.
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Postby Ashval » Thu Aug 04, 2005 2:30 am

Um, how long have you been listening to GSP? We do trivia type contests and other types of contests all the time. Foxy did a slew of them earlier today...of the trivia variety. YOU try DJ'ing for two years and manage to keep coming up with creative contests. LOL It's not easy. ;)

If you look, you'll see another contest right here on the forums...(hint, hint)
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Postby Ashval » Thu Aug 04, 2005 2:34 am

Oh, and regarding your comment about items...that's actually not as good an idea. Here's why...

Most items are class/faction/level specific. I keep backpacks full of stuff and try to give out items that I think someone can use, but the actual number of items that are universally interesting as prizes is very short.
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Postby earthnut » Thu Aug 04, 2005 2:52 am

ok theres some trivia, but still, the majority of the contests is lottery contests.
and the trivia is usually very easy/googable.
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Postby Lauri » Thu Aug 04, 2005 3:07 am

Unfortunately, difficult trivia(and even some average trivia) doesn't attract many listeners. Now, it doesn't matter why - it's just reality. Unless presented during peak hours, we wouldn't get too many participants. Sometimes it's hard to give away prizes, it seems.

I don't think making it very difficult on average is really a prime idea. Though, hey, we might save a lot of cash that way... but that's not what it's all about, huh? ;)
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Postby earthnut » Thu Aug 04, 2005 3:09 am

then make them fewer with higher prices, then more will participate
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Postby Lauri » Thu Aug 04, 2005 3:22 am

earthnut wrote:then make them fewer with higher prices, then more will participate


*draws a big picture that displays that GSP has tried a massive variety of contest formulas* :)
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Postby Ashval » Thu Aug 04, 2005 3:23 am

*chuckles*
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Postby earthnut » Thu Aug 04, 2005 3:29 am

Lauri wrote:
earthnut wrote:then make them fewer with higher prices, then more will participate


*draws a big picture that displays that GSP has tried a massive variety of contest formulas* :)

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Postby Darth Bootay » Thu Aug 04, 2005 6:28 am

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Postby Gridfan » Thu Aug 04, 2005 6:48 am

We are a radio station! The contests are just a bonus for the listeners!

We'd rather have people listen because they want to listen,
not because they wanna win stuff!

If that is the only thing you are interested in,
then I doubt you will like GSP that much.

GSP is all about music and the social aspects of life!
Not credits.

Your very cute for a Troll though earthnut :)
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Postby earthnut » Thu Aug 04, 2005 7:48 am

Gridfan wrote:We are a radio station! The contests are just a bonus for the listeners!

We'd rather have people listen because they want to listen,
not because they wanna win stuff!

If that is the only thing you are interested in,
then I doubt you will like GSP that much.

GSP is all about music and the social aspects of life!
Not credits.

Your very cute for a Troll though earthnut :)

Im not a troll, im a fisharman. And why not make the bonuses better if theyre still there. Its like, u have u can choose between a rotten fish and a fish. And u choose the rotten one. Oh and I personally dont give a crap about the prizes, just thinking about make gridstream a better place. Now that was a politically correct answer. BYE!
actually, i do want the prizes, but still
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Postby Jairyn » Thu Aug 04, 2005 11:46 am

Then ya won't mind if we make Gridbot watch for you so you can't win anymore contests? Great!!

More fun for those who do enter our contests.

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Postby Tarryk » Thu Aug 04, 2005 1:06 pm

earthnut wrote:And why not make the bonuses better if theyre still there. Its like, u have u can choose between a rotten fish and a fish. And u choose the rotten one.

Right, that must be because we're hoarding credits because we have that many "more important" things to spend them on.

Dude, you're complaining like we're a business that's holding out on you. We're not. We have a limited supply of prize cash (that's donated from awesome players who would rather support us than complain about us), so we give it out equally and fairly. And the ONLY way that we've found to be universally fair, after over 3 years of tests and trials on different contests, is to offer everyone the same chance at winning via lottery-style gridbot contests, and we DO occasionally make them trivia and/or event contests, and they are occasionally for more than just credits. Sometimes we make it a mild competition, sometimes not, but it's always fair to everyone participating.

So if you're so blind with greed that you have the audacity to come to this forum and patronize us with a semantic debate on the meaning of the word "contest", and then complain about something that's A) free, and B) performed by volunteer hobbyists who work WAY too much for zero pay to have to deal with that kind of attitude, then perhaps you would be so kind as to supply us with several hundred million credits and/or a working model for fair redistribution and we'll honestly and openly consider it.

Until then, semantics and your criticism of "Yeah, so why u dont make them actual contests" doesn't get "u" much farther than directly under our skin.

And when all is said and done, there is one thing you mentioned that we still don't do very often due to lack of manpower & resources: treasure hunts. And it's something you might see more of in the future.

But you certainly could have gone about suggesting it in a slightly more tactful fashion.
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Postby FoxyJama » Thu Aug 04, 2005 1:15 pm

I can see how this suggestion was made to improve how we run our contests, and I appreciate the sentiment but it was an ill-informed one.

1) You suggest we have contests, and we point out that we do. In particular, we have quite a few trivia contests, and the 'Match the DJ" contests are not easily google-able.

2) Criticizing the trivia contests we do have as being "easy to google" is pretty pointless. If someone knows how to use a search engine, there's very little you can't answer.

3) There's not a radio station anywhere that doesn't have "If you're our 33rd caller you win BlahdyBlah tickets!" When we have "send a tell to gridbot with the word BlahdyBlah", that's exactly what we're doing. It just doesn't require you to grab the telephone and punch in the number and keep hitting redial.

4) Veldron covered very well why we give cash and not items. However, I have seen the DJs give items (generally social clothes, and fun stuff) fairly frequently.

Criticism is welcome here, we give it, we get it, and we use what we can to make this station a better one. We need to be careful not to get too defensive about folks giving us criticism, but at the same time, as a listener, if you're going to give us criticism, make it an informed educated suggestion.
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Postby earthnut » Thu Aug 04, 2005 4:02 pm

Tarryk wrote:
earthnut wrote:And why not make the bonuses better if theyre still there. Its like, u have u can choose between a rotten fish and a fish. And u choose the rotten one.

Right, that must be because we're hoarding credits because we have that many "more important" things to spend them on.

Dude, you're complaining like we're a business that's holding out on you. We're not. We have a limited supply of prize cash (that's donated from awesome players who would rather support us than complain about us), so we give it out equally and fairly. And the ONLY way that we've found to be universally fair, after over 3 years of tests and trials on different contests, is to offer everyone the same chance at winning via lottery-style gridbot contests, and we DO occasionally make them trivia and/or event contests, and they are occasionally for more than just credits. Sometimes we make it a mild competition, sometimes not, but it's always fair to everyone participating.

So if you're so blind with greed that you have the audacity to come to this forum and patronize us with a semantic debate on the meaning of the word "contest", and then complain about something that's A) free, and B) performed by volunteer hobbyists who work WAY too much for zero pay to have to deal with that kind of attitude, then perhaps you would be so kind as to supply us with several hundred million credits and/or a working model for fair redistribution and we'll honestly and openly consider it.

Until then, semantics and your criticism of "Yeah, so why u dont make them actual contests" doesn't get "u" much farther than directly under our skin.

And when all is said and done, there is one thing you mentioned that we still don't do very often due to lack of manpower & resources: treasure hunts. And it's something you might see more of in the future.

But you certainly could have gone about suggesting it in a slightly more tactful fashion.

the rotten fish comment was a comparison, i didnt call the contests rotten, thus, your other statements are INVALIDATED. But I'll answer them anyways:
1) I already said contests and money is not my thing.
2) Making them fewer with more money isnt gonna cost u any money.
3) Trivia contests are fair, everyone got the same chances.
4) It is free, that doesn't mean it cant be improved.
5) Your first paragraph didnt make sense.
6) I dont consider my behavior hostile in any way.
7) Im not complaining. Construtive critism.
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Postby earthnut » Thu Aug 04, 2005 4:08 pm

FoxyJama wrote:I can see how this suggestion was made to improve how we run our contests, and I appreciate the sentiment but it was an ill-informed one.

1) You suggest we have contests, and we point out that we do. In particular, we have quite a few trivia contests, and the 'Match the DJ" contests are not easily google-able.

2) Criticizing the trivia contests we do have as being "easy to google" is pretty pointless. If someone knows how to use a search engine, there's very little you can't answer.

3) There's not a radio station anywhere that doesn't have "If you're our 33rd caller you win BlahdyBlah tickets!" When we have "send a tell to gridbot with the word BlahdyBlah", that's exactly what we're doing. It just doesn't require you to grab the telephone and punch in the number and keep hitting redial.

4) Veldron covered very well why we give cash and not items. However, I have seen the DJs give items (generally social clothes, and fun stuff) fairly frequently.

Criticism is welcome here, we give it, we get it, and we use what we can to make this station a better one. We need to be careful not to get too defensive about folks giving us criticism, but at the same time, as a listener, if you're going to give us criticism, make it an informed educated suggestion.

1) I listen to GSP fairly much and Ive heard like 3-4 trivia contests. They were all easy.
2) No, u could come up with things not googable, as the "what ring gives +2 to all" however, that was easy too look up on auno.org, but mainly anarchy online stuff, that cant be googled.
3) I dont like those either.
4) Mkay. Its still not like a lvl 50 aint gonna participate to win a notum tank armor just because he cant use it. he could sell it or whatever.
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Postby FoxyJama » Thu Aug 04, 2005 4:11 pm

1) I already said contests and money is not my thing.
2) Making them fewer with more money isnt gonna cost u any money.
3) Trivia contests are fair, everyone got the same chances.
4) It is free, that doesn't mean it cant be improved.
5) Your first paragraph didnt make sense.
6) I dont consider my behavior hostile in any way.
7) Im not complaining. Construtive critism.


1) If contests are not your thing, why bother writing this at all? Why would it concern you how we run them?
2) Yes, but fewer contests with more money doesn't serve to distribute the money to more of the citizens of Rubi-Ka. More contests for smaller amounts means more people have a chance to get something, rather than a select few people getting very lucky.
3) Again, we have trivia contests, often. But trivia isn't always fair, because they're often biased based on Geographical location, cultural knowledge, etc. Face it, most of the DJs are American, and many of our listeners are not.
4) Sure, offer us a suggestion that would improve the current way we do things, and we're happy to listen.
5) Neither has any of your criticism.
6) Hostile, no. Complete tactless disregard for our responses? Yes.
7) ConstruCtive criticism requires a fundamental knowledge of how the system works to begin with. Uneducated and deaf criticism is not constructive, and doesn't serve to help improve the system at all.
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Postby Tarryk » Thu Aug 04, 2005 4:16 pm

Everything I've said made perfect sense to anyone with a grasp on the english language. I'm done here, there's nothing remotely constructive or helpful offered on this thread, just tactless dodging.
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Postby earthnut » Thu Aug 04, 2005 4:23 pm

FoxyJama wrote:
1) I already said contests and money is not my thing.
2) Making them fewer with more money isnt gonna cost u any money.
3) Trivia contests are fair, everyone got the same chances.
4) It is free, that doesn't mean it cant be improved.
5) Your first paragraph didnt make sense.
6) I dont consider my behavior hostile in any way.
7) Im not complaining. Construtive critism.


1) If contests are not your thing, why bother writing this at all? Why would it concern you how we run them?
2) Yes, but fewer contests with more money doesn't serve to distribute the money to more of the citizens of Rubi-Ka. More contests for smaller amounts means more people have a chance to get something, rather than a select few people getting very lucky.
3) Again, we have trivia contests, often. But trivia isn't always fair, because they're often biased based on Geographical location, cultural knowledge, etc. Face it, most of the DJs are American, and many of our listeners are not.
4) Sure, offer us a suggestion that would improve the current way we do things, and we're happy to listen.
5) Neither has any of your criticism.
6) Hostile, no. Complete tactless disregard for our responses? Yes.
7) ConstruCtive criticism requires a fundamental knowledge of how the system works to begin with. Uneducated and deaf criticism is not constructive, and doesn't serve to help improve the system at all.


1) Because I want to improve GSP, as I said, Now whos disregarding the responses?
2) "A select few"? Im thinking maybe half the contests, with double prices. Thats still alot, u seriously have too many right now. Its like, i cant even type that fast to gridbot.
3) Then mix them, and as I said, mostly anarchy online stuff. We are all anarchy online players.
4) I did.
5) Yes.
6) No. Ive answered every single thing uve written.
7)Once again I take help from my good buddy dictionary to save me from the clutches of hell.
Main Entry: constructive criticism
Part of Speech: noun
Definition: criticism or advice that is useful and intended to help or improve something, often with an offer of possible solutions
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