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So I'm a big fan of song lyrics. So I decided to find a translation of Amerika and this is what I found. To quote Highlandar, "Hm."

AMERIKA - AMERICA


Refrain:
We're all living in America,
America is wunderbar.
We're all living in America,
Amerika, Amerika.

When I'm dancing, I want to lead,
even if you all are spinning alone,
let's exercise a little control.
I'll show you how it's done right.
We form a nice round (circle),
freedom is playing on all the fiddles,
music is coming out of the White House,
and near Paris stands Mickey Mouse.

We're all living in America...

I know steps that are very useful,
and I'll protect you from missteps,
and anyone who doesn't want to dance in the end,
just doesn't know that he has to dance!
We form a nice round (circle),
I'll show you the right direction,
to Africa goes Santa Claus,
and near Paris stands Mickey Mouse.

We're all living in America,
America is wunderbar.
We're all living in America,
Amerika, Amerika.
We're all living in America,
Coca-Cola, Wonderbra,
We're all living in America,
Amerika, Amerika.

This is not a love song,
this is not a love song.
I don't sing my mother tongue,
No, this is not a love song.

We're all living in America,
Amerika is wunderbar.
We're all living in America,
Amerika, Amerika.
We're all living in America,
Coca-Cola, sometimes WAR,
We're all living in America,
Amerika, Amerika.

Gotta love the sarcasm ^^






Tm

yeah, some of the rammstein songs are great,
this is one of there best, and the movie is good too.

OK not to be too nitpicky or anything, but translated wunderbar is wonderful, correct?

Boinky wrote:OK not to be too nitpicky or anything, but translated wunderbar is wonderful, correct?

Yes, exactly.

I think too many americans actually do think it means "wonderbra"...which cracks me up, so I usually don't correct them.

well wonderbras are pretty nice, some might even say "wonderful"

the song actually mentions both wuderbar and wonderbra.

If they do, that's amusing...since I don't think it was originally america that invented the wonderbra. I could be wrong though.

Pffft! Who else would have invented som'n that made small things look bigger?
Isn't that what the entire country is about? Bigger is better? ^^

Anyway, mad props to whom ever did tho! The world owes ya one!





Tm

i picked up a magazine when i was in london, and there was an article about a girl who fell out of a first story window onto a rod iron fence back-first, yeah the one with spikes, if the bra handn't had wire support and some thick fabric like it did on the strap on the back, she would have been impaled, not all the way through but enough to puncture a lung.
NASTY bruise and i think it fractured a rib, but the bra caught teh spike and prevented puncture....
DAMN

moral of the story,
America does indeed have its silver lining, and its lining and cupping those lovely bre--....heh ... all over the world

somehow all this wonderbra discussion got me looking deeper into the matter, here is what i found...

NEW YORK -- Wonderbra(R), the brand that changed cleavage forever, celebrated its 10th anniversary this morning by unveiling not only a new ad billboard but its new model, in person, two stories above Times Square.

When Wonderbra made its U.S. debut in New York in 1994, it sold at a rate of one Wonderbra every fifteen seconds.

About Wonderbra
Wonderbra is owned by Sara Lee Corporation, a major producer of women's intimate apparel. Wonderbra is sold in department stores nationwide. For additional information about Wonderbra, visit the Wonderbra Web site at http://www.wonderbra.com.

yeah i apparently have too much time on my hands

Sara Lee eh? Nobody doesn't like Sara Lee

i think i read somewhere that it was invented in canada...

Wonderbra – Invention Through the "Bra Wars"

The Wonderbra was created in 1964 by Louise Poirier for Canadelle, a Canadian lingerie company. Since its creation, the basic design and construction of the Wonderbra – and its intended effect – have remained the same.

ding ding ding! Mummu wins.

But its now owned by an American company. Anywho, the fact is the song says both. Amerika is wunderbar and later, coca-cola wonderbra. So no matter who invented it, Ramstein is associating it with America. Anywho, part II, I oven use the emote "/me doesn't need a wonder bra" during the playing of this song. Its not because I think wunderbar means wonderbra but because of the reference to the bra in question.

Ok, long day at work.

The original intent of this post was as a discusion of all the lyrics, not just wunderbar/wonderbra.

The song is still great, but their not really digging on America the way I originally thought. There is one reference I don't get. Mickey Mouse in Paris is an obvious reference to Eurodisney. I assume that's a jab at us spreading our cultural icons to other parts of the world. But what's up with Santa Claus in Africa?

exactly the same.
santa claus is (afaik) an invention by the american indutrie.
In germany we have saint nikolaus at the 6th dec and at christmas the "christkind" wich was pushed aside by the "weihnachtsman" (german version of santa claus) in some more urban areas.

Hey kids, do you like santa? You can thank Coca Cola for him! The original Saint Nikolaus was a rich man who gave poor kids presents at crhistmas. Coca Cola used this person to create santa.
Santa Claus originates from Sankt Nikolaus.

That's right kids, the token of christmas, the embodyment of the holiday itself... Is a marketing gimmick!

Long live capitalism! ^^





Tm

Wasn't that Jesus guy supposed to be the embodyment of the holiday? Or at least originally? and I swear I saw him drinking a Pepsi

Mummu wrote:exactly the same.
santa claus is (afaik) an invention by the american indutrie.
In germany we have saint nikolaus at the 6th dec and at christmas the "christkind" wich was pushed aside by the "weihnachtsman" (german version of santa claus) in some more urban areas.

And here I thought all countries had their own versions of Santa Claus on December 25 same as we did. That's why I was confused by the reference. I mean that's what we're led to believe by many of our holiday movies. Of course they're also American made. hmm... I'm so culturally ignorant.

Jesus, now that you're on that point Boink, isn't really who we celebrate either.
Jesus was born in march I believe, when you read the bible and no where near Dec'.
That Jesus is whom we celebrate was a gimmick by the roman ceasar (I forget his name) that gathered Christianity. The mojority of the people were by now christians and to avoid a religious conflict within his empire, he made it the official religion. To avoid hassle from the other religions he incorporated all their symbols and holidays to make the transaction easier.

Christmas is what we in danish call "Sol Hverg". It's the greeting of the new sun. The new year.
Jesus was put in to make it easier to swallow for the Christians. Like wise, ever wonder what the halo's over the saints heads is?
It's the egyptian sun disc. Worship of the god of the sun. It was a symbol of the holy, and of power, hence it was given to the saints to elevate this.

God himself. No christian has ever been allowed to portray God... Yet we see him as an old man, muscular, with white hair and beard... Any other gods you can think of that look like that?

How one of the oldest and most "powerful" of them all? Zeus!
With that image, anyone knew he represented power, because all, if nothing else subconsciously, knew that Zeus=power.

I could go on, but it has nothing to do with Christmas so I'll not side track ^^

Very few holidays are of Christian origin. And least of all Christmas. But it has, via Coca Cola and Christianity, come to resemble the time of year where we forgive, rejoice, and love. Thus it's ideal for the moral beliefs Christianity are trying to represent. And the warm, happy feeling also happens to sell a lot of coke ^^





Tm

I have to disagree Oddy. It may not occur on the actual birth of Christ, but Christmas is a celebration of his birth, regardless of the date. The date itself is a pagen holiday that was adapted to be the date for various reasons. But Christmas, in an of itself, is a celebration of Jesus. Santa Claus and etc, was thrown in there later as well, for sure. But its still a religious celebration.