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weeeee they finally deemed a name... sorry i just now found out..

http://www.starwars.com/episode-iii/bts ... 40724.html

Yaaaaay! Now if they'd just make sure it isn't crap like the other movies and we'll be rockin! ^^

Trolling aside... How... The... Heck, is George Lucas gonna chain them together? The naboo fighters are WAY sleeker, sexier, and obviously more efficient than the X-Wings... And the shield droids... Honestly...

Explain to me, where this technology went... Almost 30 bloody years later!?!

That aside... Yay! More light sabers!!!





Tm

Lightsabers!

"Obi-wan did not tell you about your father." quack quack quack quack quack quackquack

"He told me enough, he told me you killed him!"ook ook ook ookook ook ook ook ook ookook ook!

"No, Luke. I am your father." quack quack quack quack quack quackquack

"NOOOO!" OOOOOK!

*luke pulls out a blueberry pie*

All your pie are belong to us

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SW (ANH) A new hope
SW (ESB) Empire strikes back
SW (ROTJ) Return of the jedi
SW (PM) Phantom menace
SW (AOTC) Attack of the clones
SW (ROTS) ?????

Star Wars ROTS?? hmmm.... think it says something about lucas's plans

Revenge Of The Sith

Right?

I'm not clicking any links, just going by what I read. It reads back with the whole media presumption when Return of The Jedi was pre-epted with Revenge Of The Jedi

*pulls out his pimpsaber (lightsaber pimp cane... don't ask), and writes on the wall "STOP IT ALREADY!!! GODDAMNIT!!! MOVE ON!!!" Then randomly cuts someone's head off*

PMAOTCROTSANHESBROTJ

I dont see any patterns pertaining to lucas' plans. Still, this should be good. Im a member of a group caleld De Molay, and we have a bunch of members that work at the local theatre, so we can get in for midnight showings for free, and have the theatre all to ourselves

I just wish he hadn't started getting all pretentious all those years ago. When I saw Star Wars it was that - Star Wars, had no extra title tagged onto it, was not Episode IV - it was Star Wars!

Boinky wrote:I just wish he hadn't started getting all pretentious all those years ago. When I saw Star Wars it was that - Star Wars, had no extra title tagged onto it, was not Episode IV - it was Star Wars!

Well, it was called Star Wars primarily because they had no idea they'd be able to do the series. It WAS part 4 of everything that he had outlined, and that was the part he picked to make the singular movie because he liked it the best.

And, even when it first came out in theaters, the first thing you saw on the screen during the text-scroll was indeed: Episode IV

waiting for the first 3 (last 3 by the story) to come out on DVD soon. hopefully it'll be much sharper in look/sound, maybe better lightsaber looks and such too...

i liked the first two so far, greatly...but, i'm not going to go sit on a street and wait 2 months for it or anything...i'll catch it a few weeks down the road...just the same...

Well I'm having trouble finding much credible info to back me up, but I am still fairly certain it was not Episode IV till a re-release as noted in this trivia site , and I was always under the impression his first story draft (well and rewrites before actually finalizing the shorter script) only dealt with the stories that ended up being the original 3 movies, but might be wrong about that. The disconcerting thing is that he made tons of money and became a worldwide media giant from Star Wars so now looking back I think he may recount the origins more in a fashion to keep the legend alive than be totally truthful. It sounds better for him to have this grand plan for all the movies in his head in 1974 or 1976 fully thought out to the last letter when the real truth was probably closer to "I hope I can make this one movie right now"

Originally he had more scripts made, the story line itself was made. It was set. But they were under a lot of time preasure and a rather tight budget that simply did not allow for all episodes to be made. That and the current techhnology gave certain limitations to it as well... That said, Tarryk is right, he chose episodes 4-6 because they were the ones that explained his universe and setting more thouroughly than any of the ohter episodes. Number 6 is not where the story ends either. But seing as the cast are all to old to do it now, the post-empire stories remained novel fiction. It was never as detailed as the expanded universe is now. But luke opening the Jedi academy and Han and Leya's kids playing a role later on was determined back then as well, tho only on paper.

Still tho, I think he should have stopped after the trillogy. The follow ups had no chance of carrying on what the originals had created, and the current "trends" in movie culture ruined it in my oppinion.
The fact that it now had to contain an element of "slap-stick-easy-to-follow" humour was never a part of star Wars. It's the same thing LoTR suffers from but I will not get into that again. Jar-Jar was never an original character. He was added so children and the younger female audience would see the movies. This is not ment as descrimination, but let's face it. Women are not known to like Star Wars. So he added something cute. Which, in every aspect, was nothing short of theatrical necrophelia. Taking a long dead movie story line... And givin it a good bangin up the rear.
The original wit was served cold by Han Solo's sly remarks and C3PO's constant shambles. It was not hard to follow, but it was witty. Not some ridiculous creature who stuck it's tongue in power conductors, was unable to speak english at a post-3. grade lvl, and whose sole purpose of existance was to sell lunch boxes.

I personally never took much pleasure in any of the new movies. I will watch this one all the same, fan boy as I am, but I highly doubt I will enjoy it. As far as I'm concerned, George Lucas should have stopped while the going was good. Instead of attempting to milk it to it's last drop. Doing so has produced these stagnant, sour drops, with which we are forced to satisfy our thirst.






Tm

Well Oddy considering you weren't slapped on the bottom in the delivery room till after the original trilogy was done and finished I reserve the right to consider you less than an expert on this subject. As I said I think Lucas' recounts of what transpired to create Star Wars in recent years (recent being 15 or so) is more a polished version of the actual truth. No doubt he created it and we now have the finished products you see before you. But something he rarely seems to stress are such things as all the input he had from movies he pulled ideas from, people he worked with to develop every aspect of Star Wars from the first time the idea sprung into his head - The legend nowadays almost seems like he woke up one morning with a story that could encompass 9 Sci-Fi movies the world would bow down to foever with complete scripts lying at his feet. Oddy, if you can tell me word for word, image for image what was in Lucas's head in 1974 then I'll accept your ideas, but sadly I guarantee you not even George Lucas has that information anymore. He's been uber-hyped for over 20 years, think that hasn't gone to his head and taken up residence a bit?

/rant off

I fully understand your position, and like you, I do not hold a tape recording of him saying in 1974 that it all came to him in a dream.
I, like so many others, must base what I know on behind the scenes documentaries, interviews, statements and transcripts. But sadly tho, they are as close to the truth as anyone is ever going to get. So, like you, I hold the right to question your knowledge of this production for the same reasons you stated at me. At some point you have to believe what's documented as it's the only way you will ever see what happened before your time. Likewise, I tend to believe WW II took place after having seen so many independant sources claim it to be so.

I am in no way trying to patronise you, nor undermine your oppinion, I am merely saying that I will stick to my beliefs as to how it was brought about in accordance to the information I have gathered through my life. Untill you can prove to me I am wrong, I am as inclined to follow my beliefs as you are yours.

I will tho, advice you do not question my oppinion merely due to my age. As it is as likely to throw back at you in the rather lame "you just don't want to be told of by someone younger" approach.
When the thing discussed is so old, and all based merely on documents, film footage and urban rumours, age has nothing to do with it. I have as much a chance of gathering information about this as you have, unless you have met George Lucas in person and had him explain it all to you... A scenario I find rather unlikely.





Tm

Personally, i find that this new star wars name actually does fit in just like the other names. The phantom menace was about a menacing phantom(and he would have gotten away with it too if it werent' for those meddling kids) and attack of the clones was about clones that were attacking. So i guess that revenge of the sith must be about the sith who are revenging??(is revenging a real word??)

PS: HI TACZ!!!

Broken Guitar wrote:Personally, i find that this new star wars name actually does fit in just like the other names. The phantom menace was about a menacing phantom(and he would have gotten away with it too if it werent' for those meddling kids) and attack of the clones was about clones that were attacking. So i guess that revenge of the sith must be about the sith who are revenging??(is revenging a real word??)

Uhm... What was that about? I thought we were discussing facts about the origin... Where did the credibility of the headlines come from?...
That said, I dusagree. The Phantom Menace should have been called:
Star Wars: Decaying of the brain cells as you are forced to watch this blabbering idiot binx for 133 minutes..

And as for the second episode?:
Star Wars: Not quite as bad as the latter (Binx is hardly in it) but the script and dialog are as bad.

Both should be attached with a small sign labelled "Caution, dialog is so untrustworthy and bad it may cause slight nose bleedes on occasion..."





Tm

Well considering your WWII analogy - even considering that simply witnessing an event doesn't exactly give you total knowledge of it. Who would you believe more as an informant for WWII, somebody who witnessed it or somebody who was born a year or 2 after it ended? I'm not really questioning you based on your age Oddy except in relation to it's difference compared to the subject at hand.

Lucas probably started revising in his head and for public consumption the actual origins of Star Wars shortly after it's amazing success in 1977 let alone what he has said in interviews in 27 years since.

As far as I'm aware there's only one other resident Troll of these forums who's got the edge on me for age here - not Tarryk or Otori, but I'm not sure if Teh Bootay even has much interest in this regard or subject.

I'll leave you with a concept that best suits this - "revisionist history"

He what I alwayus foud amusing was the Norwegian translattion (or version if ya will) of the title.

(usualy they totaly mess up stuff like that)

In Norwegian it was name Den Skjulte Trussel
(which in Norwegian sounds just as lame as The Panthom Menace)
but here is the funny thing. if the Norwegian title
is translated back to English it ends up as:

The Hidden Threat

Which imo is way better than The Phantom Menance

Hmm, then again. I think amovie is actualy called The Hidden Threat
so maybe it was copyright reasons that made it end up as it is in english title.
*shrug*

There's always the classic Kurosawa movie The Hidden Fortress (which was one of the main sources for part of Star Wars "During a civil war in 16th-century feudal Japan, two cowardly farmers (Minoru Chiaki and Kamatari Fujiwara) stumble upon Makabe (Toshirô Mifune), a fierce army general. Escaping from hostile territory, General Makabe embarks on a mission to rescue both Yukihime (Misa Uehara), the willfull princess of his ruling house, and the royal fortune. In the selfish hopes of finding the gold, the two misfits accompany the hardened soldier through dangerous mountain passes.

In addition to its status as one of Akira Kurosawa's finest films, THE HIDDEN FORTRESS is especially notable for its influence on director George Lucas's STAR WARS. Lucas admittedly borrowed much from Kurosawa's lighthearted epic; the two bickering misfits were the inspiration for R2-D2 and C-3PO, while Princess Leia was largely patterned after the feisty Lady Yukihime. Both Luke Skywalker and Han Solo contain elements of General Makabe, but neither character matches Mifune's disciplined ferocity. " )

I liked Hidden Fortress alot, and at points you find yourself really picking up the box to make sure you didnt pick up Star Wars in Japanese by accident. Although, my favorite Kurosawa was Seven Samurai.