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Music Industry Still Doesn't Get It

Postby Nexeus » Tue May 25, 2004 4:11 pm

http://www.pcworld.com/news/article/0,aid,116262,00.asp

Music fans worry that the music industry will raise prices on its sanctioned sites once people switch over. Some reports said Apple was under pressure to raise the price of downloadable songs from 99 cents to as much as $2.49 each. Jobs felt it necessary to address the topic at the ITunes anniversary.


But the lawsuits against alleged file swappers will "go on as long as necessary," RIAA's Lamy says. "Right now, the online music marketplace is overwhelmed by pirated and illegal music, and the legitimate services are put in a position of competing against free. Stolen copies of the same products are offered for free. We're never going to eliminate piracy, but we need to bring it down to a level where the legitimate services can compete."


From reading this article, I have begun to have a lower view, or even recognize anything that the RIAA does, it proves that like most things and people in America, as long as it's helping themselves, they like it, and then try to take advantage of it, try to milk it for all that it is worth and try to run it into the ground. The RIAA is soo adamant on making profits, they think a song is worth more than 99 cents... problem is that I think we are still getting highway robbed. What makes a son woth that much? I mean is it enough to have all of these artists live the life of fame and fortune. Not that some of them don't work hard touring, and not that touring is a hard thing, but I would love for these people to go through a 9-5, to have a boss whom really doesn't understand what they are doing, to be pushed and shoved into several different directions and facets. To me made into something, and to not really be understood by that employer.

The RIAA doesn't understand it's listeners, much like most big corporations don't. Opposed to writing a song about not wanting to write a single... how about this korn... create a scholorship for 4 years for those inner city youths whom want to go to private high school, hey Metallica, instead of suing these p2p students whom have no money for napster, why don't you give some of your money to families whom may not be able to pay the bills on time, or something. Instead of walking down the red carpet Jay-Z... you know what... grab a poor white family from Montana, take them in your limo, and walk them down with you, give them your seats.

Oh and being you like music soo much, visit a performing arts school so that those whom want to be musicians can be like one.

Soo many musicians have forgotten about their roots, they talk about it all of the time, but being the ignorant assholes they really don't understand what they are doing. They are only propogating the money wheel that is called the RIAA, whom doesn't understand anything but the color of green sprayed over dead presidents.
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Postby Gridfan » Tue May 25, 2004 7:05 pm

*applaudes* excellent Nex.
Could you keep a copy of this post, check spellings, lookthru it etc.
And have it ready? I think I may want this article among the first articles for my new site project.
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Postby Oddysee » Tue May 25, 2004 7:48 pm

Hmm... I honestly disagree...
I will not get into the whole RIAA thing, I don't like them, I have my reasons.

But as for the artists and muscicians... Well, I can think of a lot of people who preffer KoRn making musik and living that life, the life that inspires more music... Than giving away their money... Who should they give it away to? Me if I ask first? What about the guy who asks second, he get's nothing?... when will it stop, they can't pay all of us...

If I ever get a lot of money, I promise you I'll be living the sweet life. I'll do all kinds of stuff and go on holidays constantly... Why? Cus I now have the option to. Life is too short to think about everyone else all the time... Thinking about yourself, while sounding selfish, is the only way to go... You don't have to be an arsehole. But looking after people who are not your friends is not your problem... Nor should it be!

If you find someway to make money, then it's yours, and it's not your duty to pay for everyone elses party... Just your own.





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Postby Gridfan » Wed May 26, 2004 1:44 am

Speaking of Korn. *Grin* See what they say about it themselfs. Their actually ditching Warner music and refuse to sign with an y labels at all any longer *Grin*

http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/148700 ... lines=true


hehe! go Korn I say. More powah to the artists and the listeners. dump the companies, hell yeah :)
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Postby Darth Bootay » Wed May 26, 2004 10:23 am

The RIAA doesn't make music, they exploit musicians and consumers alike. They don't understand anything but money...for the bloated corporate labels. They don't generate or care for fans and they barely give a fig about their customers as long as they can continue to rake in huge quantities of cash that the actual musicians and songwriters will never see unless they have amazingly good lawyers at signing.

Metallica can no longer be qualified as musicians or performers, as they no longer give a crap about the audience and have repeatedly let us know it quite succinctly. Once upon a time, they WERE musicians, but those days are long passed. They are just another part of thed mainstream cash-grind.

I cannot begin to express my contempt for the RIAA, its supporters and other similar organzations and their collaboraters. It is because of their greed and disregard for their customers that such malicious software as Ezula is produced and unleashed onto the internet to infect the machines of people who have never even USED P2P filesharing programs. If you don't know what Ezula is, you might want to check up on it. It thrashed MY machine so badly I had to reinstall windows. Their webspiders perform unauthorized and nearly dos-attack-like scans of servers searching for MP3s, slowing loading times for legitimate sites that have nothing to do with their 'property'. This doesn't even take into consideration the hundreds of threats they field indiscriminately to people whose names they buy from the records of P2P hosts like Kazaa.

Since the United States judicial system has a habit of turning a blind eye to the shenanigans of big business unless directly forced to do something by an overwhelming majority of the voting public raising caine, this kind of abusive behavior on the part of the RIAA will continue to escalate past its already ridiculous extremes. You think it's bad now? Give it another year. It's only going to get worse.
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Postby Boinky » Wed May 26, 2004 4:12 pm

The thing I don't like about the recent problems with file sharing & it's legality is a different approach to the outrage than many might take...

I find it quite odd because at the heart of it, it seems to be a problem not with the copying of copyrighted music, but the quality it's copyed by nowdays. In years past you could make a cassette copy of an album for 25 of your friends if you wanted, and the RIAA never was the wiser. Heck, if you sent them a letter saying you had done so they'd have likely thrown it in the trash. But now we have MP3 formats and other digital files we can easily share over the internet. Now I do understand that this makes it far quicker and easier than making a cassette for a friend, but they are still basically the same thing.

So 10 years ago the RIAA couldn't give a crap about how much music you shared because they didn't have a way of tracking it with a computer, and it was crappy quality copies. Now they can track it with a few hackers locked up in a room searching servers, so suddenly this is a crisis of earth-shattering proportions!?!??

To paraphrase Jay & Silent Bob(who I think may have been singin lines from a rap song anyway - not into much rap)...

F*ck the RIAA, F*ck F*ck F*ck the RIAA!
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Postby Nexeus » Wed May 26, 2004 9:49 pm

Oddysee wrote:But as for the artists and muscicians... Well, I can think of a lot of people who preffer KoRn making musik and living that life, the life that inspires more music... Than giving away their money... Who should they give it away to? Me if I ask first? What about the guy who asks second, he get's nothing?... when will it stop, they can't pay all of us...

If I ever get a lot of money, I promise you I'll be living the sweet life. I'll do all kinds of stuff and go on holidays constantly... Why? Cus I now have the option to. Life is too short to think about everyone else all the time... Thinking about yourself, while sounding selfish, is the only way to go... You don't have to be an arsehole. But looking after people who are not your friends is not your problem... Nor should it be!

If you find someway to make money, then it's yours, and it's not your duty to pay for everyone elses party... Just your own.


I'm not saying go ahead and give away all of your money, nor should they give everything away. I'm saying give back to the communities that you came from that you founded, and that you make money off of. This is a lot more prevelant in Hip-Hop than anything else, but every musician whom doesn't take one day out of their "busy" life to visit a school, talk to kids that admire them, or do some real charity work are a bunch of assholes - assholes that I listen and love to listen to.

All I'm saying is that the RIAA has their priority screwed up and musicians are just as screwed up. THey are letting themselves get used by the RIAA opposed to really doing what they want.

Great for Korn that they aren't going to sign on a label... great, seriously... now give out a scholorship, even if it is for the fact that they memorized your song backwards and forewards and able to sing it in the bathroom with their head on a toilet. Give SOMETHING BACK.
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Postby Nexeus » Wed May 26, 2004 9:54 pm

I'm trying to get them not to fall into that, 'Oh, we want to get the big money' [attitude] because that's all owed [back to the record company that paid it]," Davis said. "It's like, 'Let's do this album cheap, let's get you out on the road and forget about the album sales until the new model comes out. Let's get you big so you can make some money on T-shirts and concerts.' That's how we make our money. We never made money on our records. That's the biggest scam in the world."


Okay, Davis... you talk the talk... now what? I think Davis understands it a bit, and this quote says so... but there's a bit more to this that I'm calling for.
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