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wow blast from the past

PostPosted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 3:36 pm
by Narcotic

PostPosted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 11:17 pm
by Negs
what the heck

PostPosted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 1:35 am
by Screaminfu
lol almost as much disinformation as Reefer Madness (classic LOL)

gotta love these educational kids things like this


new lesson governing bodies and overseers need to learn...

advice/guidance and education is the key, disinformation and criminalisation (prohibition) forces the market underground, the alcohol prohibition era seems to have taught people nothing. by forcing the market and availability underground, the quality isn't controlled putting users at more risk...it's also putting money right into the hands of criminal organisations more dangerous than weed smoking college goers. what's worse, college students giggling in their rooms and eating their own body weight in chips....or an organised crime ring using funding gained by selling drugs to kids to buy...say...guns...funding terrorists.

sensitive subject for me (family members treated medically using "illegal narcotics" on the UK national health)
lesser known fact, did you all know that heroin is used in UK hospitals under the name of diamorphine?

idiots kill themselves, educated people know the risks and make "their own choices!" :)

*waves protest flags* give freedom back to the people and stop telling us what to do or what's in our best interests ^.^ let us make our own mistakes >.<

PostPosted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 1:37 am
by Screaminfu
had to make a new post for this *giggles*

i kinda ranted there....i'm proud ^.^

PostPosted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 6:22 am
by Tastyvixen
You pretty much stated the same thing I believe SL. Banning anything doesn't stop it, it just makes it more dangerus and harder to get ahold of.

For instence, the poppy plant that cocane comes from..... well you can't legaly get ahold of the plant but it has many natural medicinal uses other then as a drug. It has to be processed a certain way to be of harm. But people are stuck with popping pills instead of taking a natural remidy just because its processed to make something illegal.

I vote for making all but the most dangerus drugs legal. The drug companies can easily make it and control the quality of the drugs so that people don't end up passing out in the middle of dance floors or die on an appartment floor and use the money to research safer ways to bring people off the drugs and encourage people not to use them in the first place.

Just look at tobbaco, it is a great example of how keeping a drug legal and instead taxxing the hell out of it and using the funds to campaign against it and educate people is really working. Its been a slow process but over the last couple generations its becoming less and less ecceptable to smoke, at least in the US. The campaigning against it has really made a difference.

PostPosted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 10:05 am
by Shigy
agreed SL...and haven't seen that vid since health class at school lol.

PostPosted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 3:36 pm
by Screaminfu
at least if the "soft" drugs were decriminalised...our prisons worlwide wouldn't be filled with college teens...bank workers...everyday working people.

makes me laugh how the people most against the research into how these soft drugs effect people are happy enough to sit back with their whiskey and cigars when those two "drugs" (alcohol and nicotine) alone are more toxic and dangerous than the things they want to ban. we need a new breed of politics, the world is moving forward but current politicians still drag us back with arcane laws and big brother knows best actions

and let's face it..(conspriacy theory :P)...the major drug companies don't want anything "natural" legalised...as they can't patent/copyright it and make money from it.

in reality i want the governments to decriminlise usage of soft stuff, fill our prisons with rapists, murderers and child abusers...not our future generations.
Tax it, earn government funding from sales (like cigarettes and alcohol) to fund public education and awareness programs.
there's high enough demand in every country yet no modern government is willing to have fun with that cash pinata yet. at the end of the day it's the users at risk with today's policies...blackmarket stuff is often contaminated (in england there's been health warnings that weed has been sprayed with glass....now even Lead Shot) putting people at risk.
i guess it comes down to this really...the governments won't back down and review the cases for/against....as they will be then be admitting fault and that they were wrong.

big brother knows best it seems ¬_¬

PostPosted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 4:01 pm
by Ashval
Screaminlord wrote:at least if the "soft" drugs were decriminalised...our prisons worlwide wouldn't be filled with college teens...bank workers...everyday working people.


Maybe it's different in your part of the world, but having worked in prisons and with Corrections most of my adult life...I can tell you that very, very, very few cells are filled with people who fit that description. Why? They have the money to afford representation that keeps them out of prison.

I'll stay out of the discussion otherwise, as I'm just generally anti-drugs...legal or illegal. I just wanted to throw my two cents in about that comment.

PostPosted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 4:13 pm
by Shigy
Hell since were on the subject. I personally think people should be able to do any drugs they like as long as its not hurting other people. If you want a good song of weed (dope) vs alcohol listin to The Streets - Irony of it all.
Personally only drugs I do are alcohol (and everyone gives me shit about how slow I drink) and panadol but just cuase nothing else intrestest me. Hate seeing cops waste time going after people just growing a bit of dope for themselves or a couple of mates. And like SL says if they legalised it the goverment could make tax money off it and we would probally have a higher quality supply. Banning substances doesn't make a difference if people want them. As proved magnificently with proabition of alcohol in america. The people wanted it so criminals became rich supplying it and fighting each other.