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Fluid-Free Flights to Dragoncon

Posted:
Thu Aug 10, 2006 2:49 pm
by FoxyJama
According to CNN, the recent discovery of liquid explosives has caused the following announcement:
Due to recent "terror plots" airlines have now put into place the following restrictions on all flights:
No Liquids, to include:
All Aerosols, Gels, Toiletries, Soap, Mouthwash, Shaving cream, Toothpaste, Perfume, Deodorants, Cologne, etc.
So, it looks like we're going shopping for the essentials when we get there.

Posted:
Thu Aug 10, 2006 2:56 pm
by Xtrophic
ehh ... WTF ...
That's the stupidest thing I've ever heard. How about they just ban flight alltogether instead ... *sigh*

Posted:
Thu Aug 10, 2006 2:57 pm
by Tarryk
I've been looking into this as well this morning. To my knowledge, these restrictions are only applying to overseas flights to and from the United States. However it would not be surprising if domestic flights are following the same restrictions.
Rest assured, however, that airlines will very likely take this restriction into account and should at least be offering free water on your flight. It's definitely something worth inquiring about when your flight nears.

Posted:
Thu Aug 10, 2006 3:12 pm
by Xtrophic
I read up on it and it only applies to flights to and from the UK.
Here is an article from American Airlines:
http://www.aa.com/apps/netSAAver/ViewPr ... ionContent
From what I can tell all other flights are unaffected by the no liquid policy.

Posted:
Thu Aug 10, 2006 4:18 pm
by Innari
And in addition, from what I understand, that's only in carry-on bags.

Posted:
Thu Aug 10, 2006 4:35 pm
by Tarryk
I've just been told conflicting bits of information within the station here that even domestic american flights are running the liquid ban currently.
President Dumbass is going to be delivering a nation-wide speech very soon, tune in to your local news radio and/or NPR.

Posted:
Thu Aug 10, 2006 6:34 pm
by Regidoc

Posted:
Thu Aug 10, 2006 6:44 pm
by Lauri
Figures. I was going all carry-on for D*Con for convenience.
Sigh. I can bring all solids, except toothpaste.


Posted:
Thu Aug 10, 2006 7:40 pm
by Myz_Lilith
WARNING: If it turns out I'm going to have to endure a 13 hour flight without being allowed to take a book or two on board, I may be a complete gibbering wreck by the time I arrive...


Posted:
Thu Aug 10, 2006 7:53 pm
by FoxyJama
Unless your books are liquid, I don't think that's gonna be a problem.
These things, however, ARE going to be a problem, if they are prohibited on my flight:
• Glasses and sunglasses, but not cases.
• Contact lens holders, but not lens solution.
I can't exactly use (or transport) my contact lenses without solution in the case. I also just bought new glasses and there's no way I'm going to put them in my luggage without a case.

Posted:
Thu Aug 10, 2006 8:01 pm
by Xtrophic
Well, she could have printed the book on explosive paper ya know
And again, so far it only affects flights going from the UK to the US (yes I know you're UK Myz

) . And from what I hear they will only enforce this policy for a short while. It will probably be gone in a week.
I am lucky to be flying in to the US from Copenhagen, Denmark. And my airline has not published anything yet about prohibitations regarding carry on.

Posted:
Thu Aug 10, 2006 8:02 pm
by Xtrophic
FoxyJama wrote:I can't exactly use (or transport) my contact lenses without solution in the case. I also just bought new glasses and there's no way I'm going to put them in my luggage without a case.
I wonder if a transparent case would be OK ?


Posted:
Thu Aug 10, 2006 8:31 pm
by Myz_Lilith
As far as I can tell, UK flights are currently limited to a small purse or wallet, travel documents, and any essential medical items. No other hand luggage. I'm hoping it will change, but a cynical part of me thinks that the airlines would love to take the opportunity to limit hand luggage as much as possible - less weight = less fuel = less cost to them but no necessarily to us.
I'm also wondering how no fluids fits in with essential medical supplies - my Dad has to take liquid insulin with him when he flies. I have no idea how much liquid explosive you'd require to cause significant damage on a plane, but it might be feasible. Mind you, in-flight security messures have never exactly been logical - I still remember when nailfiles and tweezers were banned from hand luggage as they were potential weapons, but business class passengers were still receiving sharp metal cutlery with their in-flight meals. Apparently you can't possibly be a terrorist and rich...
I reckon it's all a smokescreen anyway. They're ~really~ worried about snakes...

Posted:
Thu Aug 10, 2006 8:41 pm
by Vallikat
Diabetic supplies were specifically mentioned as being allowed. Although, I heard one report that said "if they can be proven as such". But don't quote me on the accuracy of that. It seems that every report on this thing has it just slightly differently.

Posted:
Thu Aug 10, 2006 9:08 pm
by Innari
From the TSA Website:
http://www.tsa.gov/press/happenings/threat-change-passenger_guidance.shtm wrote:The Transportation Security Administration (TSA) is implementing a series of security measures, some visible and some not visible, to ensure the security of the traveling public and the nation's transportation system.
NO LIQUIDS OR GELS OF ANY KIND WILL BE PERMITTED IN CARRY-ON BAGGAGE. SUCH ITEMS MUST BE IN CHECKED BAGGAGE.
This includes all beverages, shampoo, suntan lotion, creams, tooth paste, hair gel, and other items of similar consistency
Exceptions: Baby formula and medicines, which must be presented for inspection at the checkpoint.
Beverages purchased in the boarding area, beyond the checkpoint, must be consumed before boarding because they will not be permitted onboard the aircraft.
Passengers traveling from the United Kingdom to the United States will be subject to a more extensive screening process.
The TSA Website is what we primarily need to look at as far as what is allowed, and what is not allowed. At least for those of us flying in country.

Posted:
Thu Aug 10, 2006 10:30 pm
by Xtrophic
Atleast you are able to put them in your checked in luggage


Posted:
Fri Aug 11, 2006 12:30 am
by Chaimera
fuckin terrorists

Posted:
Fri Aug 11, 2006 4:47 am
by Otori
Get these mutha farkin snakes off my mutha farkin plane. It's actually cooler here in Atlanta than it was in Oklahoma, and much hotter than it was in Hawaii...see ya at DC.

Hope it holds up until the 1st.
Edit: And ya, Airport security sucked this morning. Liquids, gels, etc....including toothpaste. Just pack all that crap in your checked luggage and it's no biggie. I'd suggest bringin no carry-ons at all, as it just slows down the metal detector line. Flying naked might be an option. I attempted to schedule a flight plan out of TIA to HJA, but there were long ass wait times for a clearance....and my Citation doesn't have that kind of fuel, so I just stuck with commercial flights.

Posted:
Fri Aug 11, 2006 5:05 am
by Firia
Chaimera wrote:fuckin terrorists
More like, Freakin' paranoia.


Posted:
Fri Aug 11, 2006 5:47 am
by Chaimera
hahaha that too Firia